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Kon never said leave the map. He said, if you abuse this rule, all you had to do was attack one of our scouts to ensure you weren't going to abuse the (honestly kinda terrible) 50% rule that you guys briefly started "testing" last Era before your KD mates pulled a mutiny | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Imagine having a hissy fit because you wanted to implement a strategy like that based on a previous era just to have someone call you out on it with a firm message of making sure you do not do so, only for you to act like a child by complaining on here like you are complaining on twitter and then claim you will not be playing on Valhalla anymore. Freaking play the game like normal, you drama queens! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So they got called out for planning to use an exploit. And now backing out, while backing out attack Kon's image? Nice great job. Maybe grow a spine DS... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
DS, Edi, and Ghost are vets. I have played with all three of them in many KDs. I like them as people, and as KD-mates. I won't sit back while someone knowingly abuses a mechanic. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
They dang well do not act like vets. Just a bunch of trick abusers is what it sounds like. I agree, grow a freaking spine you cowards. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Last era I left the kingdom I was in to see what the game does in case of attack, if backstabbing happens, as we had suspicions that we had shady people in the kingdom (which later turned out to be true) - wanted to see if 1 person is attacked, will the 50% be removed for only that person or for all, just to know what is the best way to defend against backstabbing. After the short test I went to corner and left the game to go on a rl trip, after that I saw pages and pages of posts about me cheating by using 50% rule. We were also told that we are not supposed to test anything, that there are assigned people to test stuff in here. For what reason I do not know. Then this era comes, three of us that have been in game longer recruited 3 players who have played 1 or 3 eras before, wanting to help them play the game. Four of us stayed in core due to danger to our core while two of the newest players sent scouts and decided they will fight far away from core. Both new players with very limited activity and very slow build. One settled between two kingdoms and other outside of the most dangerous kingdom. They started building slowly and I believe at oop time one of them had 4k Gaia that he sent to travel, in direction of a kingdom. We have told them do not close gates and build some guard towers. Our vets stayed in the core, while newbies went to enjoy war. Same as Renaissance did, having their top players in core. He has three times more land then the people with 1/10 of his activity. All of us received messages that we will not be allowed to use a game mechanic that is 50% rule as that will be considered cheating by the most powerful kingdom. They all have 3 times more land then what we have, and its cheating because the top player is not able to kill them. At this time two of them are nowhere close to their core. With one players moving 4k Gaia, going south toward them, to be fair. He sends messages to highly inactive players and to the leader. We are not aware of this unwritten rule that we must attack someone in order for them to be able to kill our new players, and Dark sends a message to explain why is that. It is now that we understand its cheating. But after having seen that last era when you leave a kingdom and say you're testing the 50% rule, the whole community will slap that on you and will call you a 50% rule abuser for your entire VU career. I wish I had actually tried to abuse something so that the rep actually would be for something, and not just what some people want to believe. I do not remember VU community as this toxic few years back when I was active. People will say - go back to inactivity, we do not want 50% abusers. Even thought nothing was abused and there's absolutely no evidence. But evidence is not needed here I guess. First time I quit VU was for RL reasons, its a shame second time will be for the toxic community. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I tried to be civil - DS said no. All DS had to say is, "give us some time, and we'll attack a scout to remove the 50% rule".
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A lot to unpack here. It is possible DS genuinely did not understand why they would do that and via text his genuine curiosity looked much less like that. Things escalated based on last era's happenings, and Edi, you must understand the thing you were trying to test is well known by most veterans and your question could have been answered by any one them. So your actions were suspicious, and then new accounts appear and settle outside our core and start moving armies towards us. Halflings early game strength is their core defense and ability to defend against core drops. Abusing the 50% rule takes that advantage away and creates a very poor situation where your army is untouchable until its already done its damage. I don't know why anyone would think this is a good idea, but the rule is the rule, I guess. Overall, the whole thing is blown well out of proportion. A Pulse member attacks our scout and the game can continue as normal and no one is bothered. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The only reason the new players are alive is because Konstant was not able to kill them due to 50% rule. That is the only option new players have against the best player of the game. I did not expect the new player to actually go and attack the core and actually do some damage. The whole idea was to get the sense of the gameplay, to figure out the movements and train a bit. The message confused me to be honest, hence my weak reply, as I was clearly curious to why Konstant (the best player of the game) want me to put the new player in clear disadvantage and to his death within 24 hours of the action. To be fair my reply should have been better, but at that time I had no idea what he means by that. It is very simple to use HoH to determine how many Gaia our new players have, was it really a threat? But to accuse us all of using this 50% to actually hurt your kingdom is just foolish. If we wanted to do that, would we not do a better job. They settled far away from you guys because they were not able to find you, even thought we knew where you are much sooner. One of them forgot to put force march (or did not know about the option at all) if we actually planned to do something, don't you think we would be in the core? Reason why I disbanded right away is because of messages like these. I have enough stress and drama at my RL work, and I come here to just enjoy the game, talk to some friends, have some casual fun. Why I stay away from Discord, I do not have time or will to do that, I like a casual play, I have been playing for over 15 years and I have never received a message like this. I have never seen such rage, such level of dislike, something I do not think I ever deserved. I have been playing the game for so many years and I do not really think I ever made an enemy. Maybe now I have...
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And Sable, the testing we did is not well known at all. When one person leaves the kingdom, and attacks a Kd member, they still have 50% rule against the others in the kingdom. Only the person who is attacked can attack the backstabber. Quite hard if that person dies. That is a very problematic aspect of the 50% rule that we wanted to double check. We also noticed that Konstant did not know that, but it was confirmed by Percy. In VU we learn new things every day. I have been playing for 15 years and I still find new stuff all the time. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You got caught cheating. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I do not see any cheating happening on Valhalla this era. But I guess we all decide what we want to see. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think you can’t attack that Aquila army either, are they cheating? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You guys spend so much time writing, but the reality is that you just fed last era and called it "testing", and now you're publicly admitting to abusing the fact that the 50% rule isn't perfect. We all know not every aspect of this game is programmed to perfection. Some of it has some leaks here and there, and using those to gain an unfair advantage is what hurts the game. It is only by being aware of those glitches and actively avoiding them that we can maintain the standard of gameplay that VU wants and deserves. Pretending those glitches are intended features is just trying to justify abuse/cheating. But you've already admitted to your intentions to abuse glitches in your desperate attempts to defend yourself. Not everyone may see it, but everyone with half a brain should be able to see where I'm coming from. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Did Kinril travel ~50t outside his core, settle a city right outside of another KDs core, built thousands of gaia while being untouchable, and sent those untouchable gaia at the said KD's core?
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Man, the amount of gaslighting is actually insane. Omg, I just cannot play VU anymore with this amount of gaslighting. I might just have to take a break D: …..I actually won’t because I don’t use cheats n tricks in active servers, I genuinely want to be better at the game and I use GvE to test out anything I figure might be odd like bonuses and the combat system. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No one never said you couldn’t test. Just don’t test on a server where people are playing anyone doing testing must be tagless, not engaging in fighting, and otherwise making their presence unknown. Otherwise, go to GvE or Zeta. As for details, feel free to ask me on literally anything. Solid chance I already know it (or have a very good guess) and would remove the need to test anyways. The “don’t test” was not meant as a “don’t try to learn”. Its more of an ask questions, or do testing the proper way if you want to discover the answer yourself. I’m happy to share my procedure if others want to test on a live world, but you may be surprised at the number of caveats. Those all MUST be followed, otherwise you’re tampering and impacting an era, which means you’re not actually testing, and that specific test needs to be moved to GvE or Zeta | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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