| ~Fantasia Wars Era of Messiah~ |
Pirate Lewatha [RET] (2/10/2009 4:20:27 PM) GOOD BAD
My vices want us to have no official relations, but I can tell you that if you leave fantasia alone, we shall leave you alone on zeta. we have RVL to take care off and you have Dark+spaghetti to take care off.
That took all of 1 day for them to break...so no...no honour in that KD. Though got to admit i knew that there word is worth nothing on a really good day.
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Seems RET fell apart since I left...
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Yes, they are on spots 1-10 on Fant, they have definitely fallen apart...
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Man they suck these days...
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Sir Magnetassium
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2/26/2009 8:18:38 AMYes, they are on spots 1-10 on Fant, they have definitely fallen apart...
He means they aren't honourable. It was hardly difficult to get all 1-10 on HoH once RVL killed aurora + spread out too much.
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aren't honourable because we don't NAP H+BoW like we were asked by Predators?
aren't honourable because we never accepted the altered CF with BoW, but still attacked?! :O
aren't honourable because we tried respecting a 72h breaking time with H?
oh my... I guess we aren't honourable...
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Well I'm not really active @ the moment duo the inet provider changing.
Sorry Kingdom but as soon as I get the new inet I will be back :)
am @ work @ the moment.
well Lewatha to be honest.
you guys napped everyone and you would have never broken the nap with Heaven if RVL could actually have beaten you guys back that's a fact.
it's actually dishonerable to nap all and when you guys seem to be winning from your #1 enemy you guys think your safe and than cancel teh earlier naps that's just weak play.
Look we from RVL people expected us to be #1 based by names.
but nobody really sees further than that we were new and our members had to settle in and we still need to fix lots of things here but we werent that weak to nap all cause we thought we would going to be pwned else against RET.
thats why we napped nobody and just did our part and fight all who came @ us knowing that if we had won that we didnt have to dishoner our kd by cancelling naps to fight more.
Im not a big fan of RET to be honest as they only MAP all the bigger kd's or NAP whateva to be able to get a era win while the game is much more than that. but maybe RET doesnt know.
Ah well I still congratz you guys with the victory.
but there will be a rematch dont you worry :) and Kingdom I will be back soon :)
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What the hell Fordius? NAP everyone?
We have MAPed/NAPed 5 kingdoms from two different worlds. altho 1 of them is dead 1 we killed before NAPing 1 is very weak and 2 are very recent. by the time we killed RVL we only had 3
we never NAPed any kingdom then broke it alter. We CFed H tho and they broke that CF.
dont talk about things you dont know about
EDIT: we are also fighting a lot of kingdoms too its not like we only have a few enemies
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Yes I just read into the problems with Heaven my apologise.
this can be blamed upon you guys a bit but mainly upon Heaven.
Yes they claimed that they value there other relations more than this 1.
but they didnt mention any other relations also they never said that the current CF would be neglated when there mapped kd's are in need.
anyways thats actually beside the point.
the other thing is RET CF-ed and napped and mapped most kd's
why CF that's just making sure there is no new front during a heavy battle so they can go ahead kill of first kd and than cancel the CF as its easy to do.
Its strategy and I dont mind.
I'm more an all out war guy I mean eventually this is a war game.
its more fun when you win hard battles than when you go sit in a corner nap all the big guys and than still trying to claim a big victory.
that's just like putting 10 boxers in a ring with a blind geek :)
grow some balls and stop napping all the bigger kd's and fight them.
previous era wasnt much different than the current.
and this is just a thought of mine what I'm free to speak out and doesnt mean you have to stick to it everyone has its own tactics. but please stop denying it.
I still congratz RET for the won battle but te war isnt over ;)
or something like that haha :P
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hehe, no fordius, I did mention other relations during the cf discussion... before I said that I will value that relation higher. So it was not unclear on that point.
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if that would be true argyle, why the heck would we even have put in a 72h breaking time? And you are still to show me where I agree to such a term. Because I am certain I have not.
you said you saved the conversation, so show it.
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| Archangel Argyle [H] (2/25/2009 9:14:07 AM) |  |  | oh, I sent you a msg about it.
also
in the terms I have for our cf, it's stated that I value my other
relations more then this cf. thus when you attacked bow, you
automaticly ended the cf. | | You (2/25/2009 9:17:49 AM) | | yes, and the CF has a 72h breaking time which you should respect. |
well judging by the YOU messenger is Lewatha. you had to be aware of the other pact stating that he values those more than yours. if you didnt answer him saying that the other stuff arent included it means you have accepted his offer ignoring that term of argyle doesnt neglate that to be honest so that must be a mistake by your side Lewatha. Argyle posted that he mentioned the other relations to you but havent posted it here so Lewatha actually than he didnt break the CF as he has a MP and he said he value those over yours. ( still its not really nice ) but it's strategy you should have been aware with lewatha. now you stating you havent accept those while earlier you didnt mention anything about it besides saying something about the 72hours I can only see you making the mistake here. but Im just judging by the info I'm getting here :P playing sort of referee and am a bit bored @ work :( let the battle continue :P
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he sent me that PM AFTER he broke the CF, Fordius,
he sent it when I asked for an explanation.
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*sigh* RET approached BoW and offered peaceful Relations, BoW messages acceptance, but wanted the 72 ticks extended as we are not stupid.
No response from RET except an attack. At the very least they should of said no to Karac's asking for more ticks and not just attacked after the Kd THEY contacted agreed. Your sadly lacking in Diplomacy skills if you do not realise this.
As far as Heaven, they Honored our MAP, unlike another Kd who will remain nameless. The very Kd who approached BoW and Heaven concerning a Starta MAP against ANY Fant attacks....instead they NAP the top Fant Kd and leave us all hanging.
The lack of Honor in VU lately is really sad.
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This happens every era, some kingdoms will do well, the rest will whine about mass-napping and the inevitable decline of honor in Vu.
Some kingdoms die with honor and don't tarnish their name with these complaints, legacy was almost always like that, honestly I expected better from Revelation.
God this gets old, I can see why people quit Vu.
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oh, and if anyone wonders why I still havent replied to the latest pm from lewatha is because she brought it public and I think it should stay public, writing a pm that will be published wont make much of a difference.
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Magnesium to be honest we allready stated since the start that you guys expected to much from us easy as that. Also what I do here isnt flaming I just react with respect to the people saying something without dishonering anyone.
not really sure if lots of people did that I even congratz the enemy.
Also from the start we allready announced our goal that was to bring back balance in the game by fighting who ever opposes us instead of napping the bigger kd's ( we kept our promise even if it ment we got beaten )
I'm not unhappy with the loss.
we allready knew we had a few weak point thanks to this era we can strenghten them and we can learn from our mistakes.
we never claimed to be any better than any other kd's.
so you can't blame RVL on anything.
we never showed anyone disrespect not ingame wise or not in the forum.
I think we as a kingdom are starting to grow and so are the players.
the fun is getting back a bit by bit as its getting more exciting as our victorious means something compared to when we play the diplomacy way.
well some can agree some disagree not really my problem as everyone has there own thoughts about how the game sohuld be played.
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Speaking as a member of said nameless KD but not speaking for my KD, if people can't understand how mistakes can be made or acknowledge the efforts put in by our leaders to find a satisfactory resolution for all the parties involved then by all means continue to act out on the forums about lack of honor and our remaining neutral until a decision is made about what course of action the KD wants to take... it leaves a lasting impression of your own KD.
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either way he Nameless KD wont be trusted in future Nap/Maps until they have made their decision.
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whatever they do, it will piss at least 1 party off. be it BoW+H or RET+FATE.
I say they should make their own choice.
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well in my opinion shouldent a Map with another kingdom take priority over a Nap with another? or does this mean that they both have equal power but just share the same name.. as the nameless kingdom is showing.
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A lasting impression of our Kd? All we are doing is upholding our agreements and saying Heaven should be commended for answering the call..
I know your in a tough place, but for christsakes, the Starta MAP was intitiated and set up by the "nameless kd" to fight Fantasia Kd's. Then to say, oops, we thought it was a NAP and we accidently NAP'd a Fant Kd and not sure if we can help is more than a bit absurd. I never called the Kd out by name because I am hoping the MAP agreement is upheld and didn't want to tarnish said Kd's honor.
Magnesium, if you think we are whining, your sadly mistaken. Just posting the facts, the whining was started by RET along with half truths and lies.
We are just answering their spewing of crap and lies with facts. If the truth hurts, logout.
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Mr. Magnesium
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2/26/2009 12:23:52 PM |
This happens every era, some kingdoms will do well, the rest will whine about mass-napping and the inevitable decline of honor in Vu. |
so if a kd does do well because it mass naps or abuses something or backstabs and breaks naps everyone should be quiet so they gain more respect from that kd?
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Necro... glad to see you still acting out :)
Lew... no doubt about it!
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Booo, I say piss both groups off and keeeel 'em all! =D
*munches popcorn after instigating fight*
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No Finwe, a win that was not won fair should not count as a real win.
but I think you asked a retorical question, anyway, the answer is no.
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NP Endless im always there to help
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r u guys talkin about the preds???
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"May you live in interesting times"
Ancient curse, seems to fit the situation. :P
Well, guess we will just wait and see, all both sides can do. Will the origional agreement be honored, or the mistake. Time will tell.
Stay tuned until tomorrow, the same bat time, same bat channel.
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I wrote a long post, but honestly just forget it, people will whine regardless of whether or not it makes any sense.
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but mag your whining also about others whining so go whine someplace else about us whining, its a forum what do you think people are gonna do???
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I doubt anybody said the NAP to Fant KD was a mistake. It wasn't.
The mistake was not knowing the Starta MAP was a MAP prior to any negotiations with Fant KDs.
Drakos, the lasting impression I have isn't fit for public consumption.. but it's indicative about VU in general. You can call us nameless KD if you want but everybody involved knows who nameless KD is so ....other then trying to force a decision sooner from our leaders and airing our laundry in public... not sure you're accomplishing anything except venting :)
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Just to make sure...the nameless KD = Military right??
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Endless you know those things, the ideas in your head. well you better keep them there.
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Why Necro, did VU stop being a place to say W T F you want? or do I have special status with you now? :p
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im just messing with you... i see someone left preds
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but mag your whining also about others whining so go whine someplace
else about us whining, its a forum what do you think people are gonna
do???
But now you're whining about me whining that you're whining, so stop whining! xD
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i love the whining it cant be stopped and this time im explaining not whining.
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Yeah I figured... you're fun to mess with too so I hope we can keep that up in the future :)
Yes someone did.
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poor guy his head is all messed up with these confusing scenrios
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greetings every one
im going to update you on my kingdoms tricky situation
we MAPed bow and heaven so we could invade fantasia but my kd knew that it wouldnt be easy so we later NAPed retribution.
but know these kds are at war and we are being called on to help fight retribution. to do this we would have to betray them and break our NAP but if we do nothing we are betraying our MAP agreement.
also Lol my kd is being threated to enter the war (if we dont enter heaven have said they will attack us)
i would like to stay out of this mess but it seems like that is impossible
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RVL , Ret and Heaven all need to go to sh^t
They all suck hard, just gtfo of VU
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yea.. thats what i would think... Honor a MAP over a NAP dont know why they make it such a big/hard decision. RET would break the NAP with them in a Heart-beat if they would gain anything from it.
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