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So your idea of fun is to fight a war with an assured victory already, then you are in the wrong game for that.  I like to be in wars where it is close and where victory would be worth the effort of your kingdom and 1-2 allies working together.  Not making huge alliances and basically just crushing the weaker kingdoms underneath your heel.  Think about your playing style and think about how boring it is.

Demonslayer The Infidel Killing Kitten Report 21:18:38 Aug 4th 09

Mr. Twelve Inch Mcsatay Report 15:07:24 Aug 4th 09 Are you trying to provoke an alliance against Fate, you little pirate whinging whiner the whiney? :) Don't you think it is better and more fun than peace? Or should VU's description be changed?

I guess we (at least RoC) can hold quite some days yet though 2 MAD players did set a path to bypass our blockers before the gates were closed. Only time will tell how much damage we will have to take for this.

Should things go really bad (for us) I can only hope The Great NAP-party will enjoy the latest 25 days of this age. As farmers........

LOL!

Charley, time to learn a few things about life:

1) Nothing is assured until the fat lady sings. The era is still 30 over days from ending, so anything can happen. Touch wood, nothing does, but one never knows. So for you to state that Fate has an 'assured victory', is an exercise in retardism.

2) Your opinion that I am in the wrong game is just that - your opinion. It may carry weight with certain people, but I am sure it carries no weight with others. Including me.

3) Fate is NOT in an alliance. Whatever relationships we have now are NAPs, not MAPs. I think you have mixed too much with Lewatha and the JUICY crew - failing at the art of negative spin.

4) Crushing weaker kingdoms underneath our heel - I would not call the kingdoms we were / are fighting weak, unless you intend to insult the former Chocolate crew, and some of your kingdomates (Binh and Path are top notch players, unlike some supposed veterans in your kingdom). And I reckon that LD, Crazy and ROC (whom BTW, are a real alliance, and a major one at that) have some very capable players as well.

I think you need to rethink your positions and statements abit - you are starting to demonstrate some narrowness of mind, which, I think, you should be above that.

1) Nothing is assured until the fat lady sings. The era is still 30 over days from ending, so anything can happen. Touch wood, nothing does, but one never knows. So for you to state that Fate has an 'assured victory', is an exercise in retardism.

So Fate is going to have internal conflict and break apart from lack of warring? I know that you can say that the end cannot be assured, but look at the KDs that are warring you and look at who else can help them against you.  They have to most likely fight any of your NAPs in between themselves and Fate.

2) Your opinion that I am in the wrong game is just that - your opinion. It may carry weight with certain people, but I am sure it carries no weight with others. Including me.

I was merely stating that VU should be a game where warring should be the main reason for playing.  If you want peace, then idk what to tell you.  You realize that the game revolves around militaries, magic, building strong economies to get those and sciences to increase everything else right? Don't tell me that you should make peace in the world and live happily ever after or I might as well give up trying to reason with you.

3) Fate is NOT in an alliance. Whatever relationships we have now are NAPs, not MAPs. I think you have mixed too much with Lewatha and the JUICY crew - failing at the art of negative spin.

You love dragging Lew in here just to hear yourself talk.  Please stop being such a troll.  I know you have NAPs, but I will continue to call it an alliance simply because all of your NAPs surround Fant and protect your from your enemies basically.  If some of them are NAPed with your enemies, they still cannot allow passage to get to you or else that breaks them.

4) Crushing weaker kingdoms underneath your heel - I would not call the kingdoms we were / are fighting weak, unless you intend to insult the former Chocolate crew, and some of your kingdomates (Binh and Path are top notch players, unlike some supposed veterans in your kingdom). And I reckon that LD, Crazy and ROC (whom BTW, are a real alliance, and a major one at that) have some very capable players as well.

I never said they were WEAK! I said that you were fighting kingdoms of drastically inferior power, numbers, etc.  The skill is there, but you are talking about just swarming these kingdoms.  They are fighting other kingdoms too you know? Having Fate, who isn't warring anyone of equal strength, just dropping out of the sky onto them while they are in other wars is ludicrous! Players can only fight so much at one time before it is simply overwhelming.  I know numbers don't mean anything by looking at the past, but Fate has skilled members too.  Your skills members attacking other skilled players who are at war with still even more skilled players is fair?

Sure, TSA has some good players, but a lot of crappy ones too. (No offense, yet again.)

Hehe, always thought that line was kinda funny when you hear it (you hear it in conversations all the time)..."I think you really svck, but I didn't mean it in a mean way..."  What exactly OTHER way is there to interpret it as an insult? :P

Sorry, just my interdiction, carry on =)

A lot of offensive remarks for a post thats not intended to offend ???

Sorry, I didn't mean to say anything about the kds themselves (I actually esp think highly of RoC, I've faught many of them 2-3 eras in a row now and they are some very good players)...I was simply saying the "No offense" part is kinda funny after insulting someone...

I was in RoC for several eras in the past.  They do accept and train new players last time I checked.  They aren't all experienced players, which explains Lew's...comment(Which could have been phrased better), and they aren't up against a challenge like fighting Fate+ several other KDs.  They can't hold out against your sizes, power, economies, etc.  It simply isn't realistic.

As for your last comment...your OOP war with Choco and HIV was legit.  But you are ignoring the PRESENT.  I have seen your core, I know you have strong mages who probably have strong magic cities setup to stop any invading armies, and I know you have good blockers in place.  You think any KD will be able to walk right in without being stopped by your defenses? You are not giving yourself any credit...your scenario is a 1 in a million chance and even then, if you say "well, that chance COULD happen" then you are just making excuses.

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My fellow Fate comrades, I think we need to NAP every other kingdom in the game right now and just farm the rest of the round away. After all, everyone (including Charley) thinks we are at peace with the world :( Let's make it real, eh?

Ok, tell me who you are fighting? Then tell me what KDs THOSE kingdoms are fighting.  Then think.  Okai?

Hey im not crappy im fihting FaTe and they run away from their fight. So i can easily fight you guys. I fight till my last city is gone and im doing a good job so far.

I guess arguing with someone who has different beliefs in what VU should be like is impossible.  Enjoy yourself I guess...not that I will have any respect for you ever.

It is more your mode of argument, Charley.

It is quite adversarial, confrontational, antagonistic, and trying to impose your beliefs onto us.

Perhaps if you can be a tad more objective, understanding and tactful.... (but that would mean that you have to differentiate yourself from that Lewatha person... a bit difficult to do so, no?)

Edit: Another life lesson - sometimes yours / my respect is not needed. You / me can certainly survive without the other's respect. Comprende?

There is little to be objective about. the tactics your kingdom uses used to be heavily frowned upon and people trying it would be set upon. the aim was to keep the game flowing with warfare and fun. These days too few vets remain or care enough to show the spirit of the game to those currently "leading" it. now i am even unsure what the point of naming the era after the previous eras winner, it used to be a badge of honour for a warrior who gave it all. now you can "win" without lifting a finger.

next era's name...Fate won this one...so it shall be called...

Era of Diplomatic Hippie Victory...

90% of those members farmed to victory. I dont recall many era's when players won out of sheer brutality in beating every other player around.

who is this brett know it all?

no i dont digg

We at CRAZY thank the green circle in black space people.  you are our kind of crazies.  And Owain.  victory against us is never hollow.  although we are still a bunch of newbs.  and our numbers have dropped.  we have great potential.

yeah things aren't workin out well for us but honestly MAPing LD and RoC is asking for others to gang up on us.  we knew what we were gettin into.  Bit I agre we aren't as skilled as the FATE guys or those other famous alliances.  We are fighting on but will perish unless rebirth and fate fight.  actually MAd and rebirth fighting could help us survive too.  this hammish guy is killing us.. lol

anyway it reminds me of a story.  their was this guy named Owhine.  he couldn't win a fight against a particulary tough salmon.  He saw this grizzly bear and asked it for help.  the grizzly bear shows up and eats them both.

lol

Now, I can see the Starta Alliance getting low morale. Are you assuming the kingdoms attacking you to be all against your alliance or are you just on their way to their next target? Maybe, what caused this Starta wide war happened?

Honestly, we expected Rebirth to be our main enemy this era. We renewed last era NAP relations with FATE, and chose ROC to be our second NAP partner. The rest of Starta kingdoms will be targets. But things go the other way, ROC declined and the Starta kingdoms united to fight us.

We never asked for help with FATE and Rebirth. I bet they have no relations with each other. Regarding DE, I never knew they will also participate in this war.

I thought someone from LD joined Crazy kingdom who will be in Starta and then left and brought LD in the same area. Am I right?

Actually no Aloysius, if we were to do that, it would be on fanta, where the scores would actually count

Also, TSA was at war with each other before you decided to attack ToS which woke us up to the unfair reality of you having half of the world while we were struggling for the other half.

If we did that Zeta would delete our KD, force us to restart or we would be punished some how. He has the list of where all the KD's are supposed to start Pre Era launch (via script based on ending score). It's preset before era launch and Zeta has a list of the locations all the KD's are supposed to be in before he opens the game server.

I guess Barca is spreading rumors about due to the fact that he is getting flammed by all his former friends and all, after we found out he is a KD hopper (and what makes it worse is he hopped to the KD w are fighting) and a traitor. Not to mention a HORRBILE diplomat.

And yes Brany, apparently you have there playing style all figured out.

Real fun wouldn't you say, I mean allying everyone who's a threat then gang banging the ones who arent. I cant believe no ones thought of that strategy before.

@Sorra,
You made me innocent on how to control kingdom placement at era start. Im sure someone from you know it and made it happen. Anyway, you said, TSA is at war before we attack one of the kd, uhm, I strongly doubt that. I can say that the win-loss monitors in kdvskd.asp page between you guys is not an open war. My members at OOP fills the fearsome rulers. I never saw any from ROC, Crazy and LD to register a significant kills in the registers. So, pls, I cant agree to that statement.

and about Barca? I think, he restarted in Talents and someone from my new member in Talents invited him. I guess that makes him not a kd hopper. And about him as a diplomat, its ok for me, he is not our diplomat anyway. I trust my vices.

lol, dont tell me that Barca should not be accepted by other kingdoms. I accept him in MAD saying he should be loyal to the kingdom at least for an era. :)

He is far away from the MAD-TSA fronts, and have a different marching orders to comply. I guess, its also your fault to give the diplomacy concern to someone who will be considered traitor if wishes fail. :)

I never said that Aloysius, I said Barca should not be accepted nor should seek to join a KD that his former KD of the same era were warring, and then turn around and say that is not KD hopping.

"I accept him in MAD saying he should be loyal to the kingdom at least for an era. "

But he hasn't, to the worst degree even, attempting to spread rumors about us in MAD cause he is pissed of that his friends see him as a low life, and if he is willing to go that far, please don't tell him that he hasn't already revealed KD secrets. That would be straight up Bullsh!t.

"He is far away from the MAD-TSA fronts, and have a different marching orders to comply."

First of, totally irrelevant, but secondly there are still many things he can do to hurt us, like give away secrets and spread rumors.

I guess, its also your fault to give the diplomacy concern to someone who will be considered traitor if wishes fail. :)

He wasn’t considered a traitor cause he did not preformed horribly, he was just considered an incompetent diplomat, but still loyal.

The loyalty question comes in when he decides to leave, then restart and join the KD that we are warring, and on top of that, spread lies about us and reveal KD secrets aswell.

That’s when he was considered a traitor.

Isn't this pointless? we all know MAD sucks. Mad spell backwards is DAM they suck so bad.

Why would MAD accept someone who just razed all his cities and left your enemy just because he was in the "losing" kd :/