Fant 23

Fant 23
05:39:21 Feb 5th 14 - shyers* (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):* Then why bring it up again in such a way? Don't you think it's honorable to your KD to protect them? If you can't let us control blockers to our area and you are being breached does that not mean our allies weaknesses are ours? CFs are made to be broken. The terms of how they are broken are simply a technicality. Had I been king puppy I would have saved one small LGC town until all my little puppies were barking at the doors then knocked off the final straw holding back that CF. With that in mind, the best defense is a good offense, and my tigger finger gets itchy, we did exactly the correct move in our game of chess, even at that we only got lucky to at least not get some bite marks, only growls at the doors. This game is about strategy. Now, I reckon our actions merit a few whines, moans, and complains but cry cry cry seems a bit much from the MEN of VU, or have we not matured over the years as a group? It's not like we attacked right at a moment when you were....eh... Struggling more with binh than you seemed to have been all era. If anything blame me, as warlock was just letting an old friend stretch his late era legs as things used to be when eras lasted a while and the whole map got dominated, not just LGC....though I do like a good domination party. ...back to the point....a huge travesty has not been committed here, if you wanna break up with us and not return our phone calls, then do it, don't keep passing notes across the classroom. If you want a sure fire no fight agreement, settle for nothing less than a NAP. If your just looking to get some legs under ya before a fight, try the lighter portioned CF. This is really a statement too that can be put to use on all your future relations with all KD.
05:52:22 Feb 5th 14 - General Papel: Shyers, i really dont mind that we lost personally. And I agree completely you did what had to be done, had you given me an exact time CF was off I most certainly would have taken your entire core in a single turn. That being said, what you did was THE RIGHT THING TO DO in your position, even if it was unsavory. Anyways, to be blunt, you guys were gloating, and he simply commented it could have been won in a different method and would have warranted much more gloating. He did not cry. And finally, we have already acknowledged our mistakes, and they wont be repeated.
05:53:45 Feb 5th 14 - General Papel: Also, on a side note. Congrats Warlock!
06:00:04 Feb 5th 14 - Zond* (General of Best Politics):* How exactly would you have taken our core in a single turn? We had the same armies. which you couldnt beat. i fail to understand how you could kill them all in a turn. And i wasnt gloating. if i wanted to gloat i could have said much much more. I was simply showing Phoons was in 2nd and the rest are falling.
07:00:08 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Paper Thick: All your cities were within 3 turns of my city with pony riders, i was just going to split my 900k ponies into several armies and BT them into all of your cities and destroy them all, I didnt care about your armies because I knew I had no chance to fight Crylock, I would have had a very good chance on Shyers army, and that troll players army was relatively small. I do not know what you had Zond. All things aside, maybe it would have worked, maybe not. however one fact remains, had you given us more time, our mages could have built up to RoF crylocks army once or twice, and in conjuction with Dispel magic and one anger I would have had upwards of a 52% on his army. SO, as previously stated, your tactics were sound, and even though unsavory in many players eyes, had you taken another course of action, things MIGHT have gone differently. (no guarantee). And i am honestly just waiting for next era.
07:28:44 Feb 5th 14 - Zond* (General of Best Politics):* You would have had 0%. 900k ponies = 5.4mil raw op 1mil advent with some rof. doesnt matter. you are missing the key piece. you cant rof experience a way. put it this way. when he only had 300k advent. he still had 7.7mil raw op. in just that one army. not to mention warlock was very active and had magic. your ponies wouldnt have got far. and people keep saying "if we gave you time". yet ive stated several times we asked you for said time. and no one replied to me. so please stop saying it.
07:42:31 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Paper Thick: Zond, when he was prepping on me I had a 2% chance on his army. Probably because of my 8 military. i calculated he had a 20.1 mil OP after adjusted. 1 RoF is 16.1mil the dispel magic took 4% away to bring him down to 15.5 mil adjusted. The anger takes him to 12 mil with only one RoF. 22% chance. Add a bless to my army is a 27% chance. One more RoF lowers his already adjusted OP down to a 9.7mil OP Which gives me an exact 56% chance on his army at the time of the CF break. This didnt happen because as previously stated we made a mistake and were relatively MP light. But please dont tell me no chance. Math doesnt lie.
08:15:47 Feb 5th 14 - Zond* (General of Best Politics):* And you thing he just happened to not bring a lot of mu. Or maybe its because we knew the magic you guys had, So he didnt waste upkeep on lots mu. As you saw. he had over a million mages total. Adding more would have been easy. You saw the steal sciences we did on your elves, and the freezes of all your armies worth freezing. Not to mention you are betting it all on casting magic, and not failing the casts. Which even if you did manage, you killed what. Like a 1/4th of his troops or something.
08:38:16 Feb 5th 14 - Stirlin* (Dark Prince Stirlin):* tbh guys, lgc is the overall winner this era
11:19:19 Feb 5th 14 - Teirdel* (Saint Feyrdel):* Nah. We are all winners.
14:51:59 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Twilight Eyes: Shyers has been talking a lot this era. Didn't see him run his mouth this much during all the eras he was getting his butt kicked. Must feel good living under the shade of Lock's grotesque wings, eh Shyers? Feeling safe and cuddly eh?
18:18:50 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Jon Irenicus: Bunch of people in here need a time out -.-
18:41:35 Feb 5th 14 - Zond* (General of Best Politics):* okay.. gather them up. we can all go in the time our closet with u.
18:59:17 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate: has aisha deleted her account yet?
21:55:44 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Jon Irenicus: 18:41:35 Feb 5th 14 - Zond* (General of Best Politics):* okay.. gather them up. we can all go in the time our closet with u. The more the merrier!
22:32:09 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Ruaumoko: just end the friggin era .. Damn so much 'i have the biggest nuts 'flying around in here Jon must be loving it ..:-) Diplomacy .. or the great use of it was the telling factor ,so take your win Zond and crew and let a new era beguin...
22:47:18 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Token of Lgc: If Lock takes that city, my diplomatic efforts will include negotiations to kill him every era, on every map.
01:07:07 Feb 6th 14 - shyers* (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):* 19:51:59 Feb 5th 14 - Mr. Twilight Eyes: Shyers has been talking a lot this era. Didn't see him run his mouth this much during all the eras he was getting his butt kicked. Must feel good living under the shade of Lock's grotesque wings, eh Shyers? Feeling safe and cuddly eh? Lol. Dear boy, I was in beo and DB. I've had plenty of winning eras. I've also had plenty of losing eras, mostly in small KDs.You obliviously don't know much about me. I come and go from the forums. Mostly they just piss me off so I tend to stay away but I've had some extra free time on my hands.
01:11:05 Feb 6th 14 - shyers* (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):* And paperboy, I see your point, I somewhat ignore Zongs ramblings on here. And, yes I agree, you woulda done quite a bit of damage, in fact I consider us lucky as to how well it all turned out. And I'm also glad that you can understand our position and actions. I look forward to playing with you in the future.
06:43:32 Feb 6th 14 - Mr. Jon Irenicus: Hey Shyers arent you one of the old NARSSE people? Or am I mixing you up? Grats on the win Lock we all know you're a good player. Now come into the timeout closet!;) /val (cba to swap chars)
12:44:46 Feb 6th 14 - shyers* (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):* NARSSE? Not sure I know that. But I'm always Shyers. I don't change my name, even if I by chance play another world.
23:14:38 Feb 7th 14 - Mr. Cry Lock: I love you too Token. Lets have dinner
11:58:26 Feb 8th 14 - Princess Aisha: This was a strange era on Fantasia.
16:27:56 Feb 8th 14 - Zond* (The Cheating Abusing Mod):* indeed :D Mr. Cry Lock of Mod Abusing And Cheating Bastards (Halfling) Had 2,653,866 land, 7,296,099 troops and 97 science points. Killed 6,949,968 soldiers, won 165 of 195 battles and captured 117 cities.
17:22:19 Feb 8th 14 - Princess Aisha: No question about it, Cry Lock did a great era. Very nicely used the wins from beginning of the era to get large income followed by lots of exp on armies, made him too powerful. So he won But who lost? Lets look at the kingdoms: Legacy They were attacked by many people, most kingdoms allied to kill them, and we all failed, Legacy stood strong with many powerful armies Immortals Seriously inactive kingdom with only a few people, and end of era we all had extreme incomes, lots of cities, our core was only cracked by Cry Lock in last day of era, our core was not in danger at all. We ever restarted after losing our core to Legacy and we still managed to have lots of people in top of highscores, we had a horde and several groups of armies. I even showed Zond just how inactive we are, and still I never considered that we might die. Freelance Two people very powerful, their core with Immortals, not in any danger, no matter if they lost some armies, they had magic, they had strong armies, never in any danger, survived. MAD They died and restarted behind our lines, also had few large cities and started to come back when era was done. They are the only ones that might be considered dead this era? Phoons Good job with diplomatic relations this era, you did well, even thought you did not kill anyone really either? But powerful kingdom with lots of land. Mods Did awesome at start of era, clearing all the small kingdoms around them, and then CFing the rest to fight Legacy. They never left their core and waitied for best time to end the CF to win the era. Showed us all that cease fire agreements from now on need to be specified in a very strick way and all ways of abuse should be checked. As it seems abuse is quite possible.
17:57:58 Feb 8th 14 - Timur* (Sheriff Timuur):* Err..Poodles lost. But with mostly newer members (4th era Fantasia, 1st era allowed to farm), we take pride in the fact that we tried to take on Legacy rather than feeding on the weak. And the war with Mods, despite its negative effect on the plausibility of small kingdom coalitions in the future, did give us a great learning opportunity. Continuous improvement for the (eventual) win.
18:10:31 Feb 8th 14 - Rora* (Heavenly Aurora):* Phoons Good job with diplomatic relations this era, you did well, even thought you did not kill anyone really either? But powerful kingdom with lots of land. They killed Relentless. We were also just 2 people in our little corner not protected by anyone. We CF'd Mods and Poodles since they were right beside us. The battle with Phoons was fun, we went and attacked them and kept the fighting down there for a short time before they sent an army to our core where I died almost instantly and Edd died later on unable to defend against multiple armies. See you all next era :)
19:43:57 Feb 8th 14 - McMax* (Mr. Mcmax):* This is one of the things I do love most in VU. Kingdommembers in one world (Mantrax), enemies in two others (Fant and Valhalla). And no problems being so!
22:19:09 Feb 8th 14 - Rora* (Heavenly Cristal):* Indeed, I play with everyone I play against on other worlds pretty much. Although on Fantasia it's not like we've ever encountered, have we?
11:03:55 Feb 9th 14 - McMax* (Mr. Lookaround):* No, not directly. I took the long way up to the top and turned left to attack Sprout from his back.... (Water's idea, worked well).
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