~Fantasia Wars Era of Messiah~

~Fantasia Wars Era of Messiah~

04:48:13 Feb 28th 09 - Sir Death Proof:

but isn't that how you win eras? You either NAP/MAP the right KD's or you die? Or you NAP everyone and and farm.... don't think its RET's fault that REV didn't pick their battles a little more wisely....

06:42:49 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Killstone:

Mr. Fordius

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2/27/2009 10:04:00 PM

Killstone that's a lie :)
you know it.

I presume the first 1 was E.
than the second one was Foundation.

but you guys had a nap with Predators too ( even more than that )
so its defenitly more than that also dont forget about the naps on other maps :)

we were fighting on mantrax and fantasia and we didnt back off from any battle and kept our promise about real wars :) maybe we lost the battle for now but teh war is far from over.
if we had done the same thing you guys did and nap all others the outcome of our 2 battles would be different its just how you look @ it.

You claim RET being the best while I can disagree with that.
and no I'm not claiming that RVL is the best either.

I'm just disagreeing with you that RET is the best.
as they havent proven to be good ( besides allying up all other good kd's )

Ok fordius first of all i never said Ret was the best. in all honosty i didnt think we could beat RVL we only won because of diplomacy. and throughout VU history there have been better kingdoms than ret.

second of all. i said in the beggining we had peaceful relations with two kingdoms we did not NAP preds until we were already activly warring and attacking RVL.

and third and lastly I personally am not a fan of mass NAPs then farming. but IMO ret did not do that. Us and RVL were big targets to almsot every kingdom. We knew RVL would be a great opponent and so we took precautionary actions to aid us in the war. RVL did not. because of this RVL got overwhelmed and ended up losing their wars. Ret thrived and is now the main target for all kingdoms.

i do not think that RET is the best and i do not think RET over NAPed i think we had to make choices and NAP a lot of kingdoms but we are also warring a lot of kingdoms on a lot of fronts.

07:38:13 Feb 28th 09 - Demonslayer Scientist:

I wonder how many KDs RVL NAPed...?

08:33:02 Feb 28th 09 - Sir Penguin:

09:37:15 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Dark Ois:

Im pretty sure RVL had a NaP/MaP with Velocity right?

Considering Velocity was mean't to be some sort of '2nd Best' RVL
If my info is correct, if in wrong

Just ignore me ^^

10:36:47 Feb 28th 09 - Sir Haribs:

We shall do, ignore you.

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| ______ rhymes :-p

10:39:28 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Gladiatorul:

Lord Primate Death

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2/28/2009 5:10:10 AMAgainst RET, no i didnt ...they made it. We never attacked them. In fact we allowed them to settle peacefully on the understanding of the affore mentioned message from Lew.
But if they need a butt buddy kd to help them, and both the FANT HoH and Zeta HoH to take out 6 players, go for it. I like our odds at 61 vs 6...thats assuming Rebirth dont get involved again

As a leader you are supposed to know how your people are acting; early in the era, I was trying to move 2 scouts to set-up a market city (trying to go to Nirvana from Zet). One of your man killed both of my scouts. I dont think you need names - I assume the action was discussed internally.

10:55:37 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Fordius:

Lol yet again people claiming that RVL did something wrong.
we stated even before we started with this kingdom that we were planning on a none nap policy.

and if you ask around to all the other leaders that contacted us even lewatha.
I've said in the start that if we also napped all the big kd's what fun there would be if all the big kd's nap and attack the smallers. so I said we will fight the bigger kd's to balance out and we did you think we couldnt get up allies to war RET.

so dont blame it on our Diplomacy as its chosen for a certain purpose and that was to balance out the other kd's napping each other.

Also I kinda find it odd ois.
as nobody ever claimed anything about RVL being good I've always denied that but ah well you for some reason seem to need to attack.

Velocity was our friendly kd where stashed some new guys to test.
but that plan did go wrong ( yet again ) you can make mistakes as we are new I'm totally not unhappy with it.

And Killerstone your wrong the time you guys napped/mapped Preds you guys werent winning the war only attacking.

cause as far as I knew your merger got bounched back.
in the meanwhile Pred was allready attacking from the western side.
go ask them so your wrong anyways like I said.

I'm totally not unhappy even when we lost the battle we did pretty well without the nap policy :) fighting off the bigger kd's in vu :) and we've learn some new stuff so no worries ;)

11:09:33 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Gladiatorul:

You need talent for a 'balanced' diplomacy Ford; and by 'balanced' I mean good enough to ensure the victory but also to have plenty of good fights (and keep good fighters in the KD); you may not have this talent - or need to get more mature.

Who cares you fought everyone and lost (or just about to). This is losers' excuse. Dont take it too hard - you look good player - may need to polish a bit your 'diplomacy skills'.

12:36:23 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Dark Ois:

I wasn't actually having a niggle at RVL at all
Just replying to

Demonslayer Scientist Report 2/28/2009 7:38:13 AM	I wonder how many KDs RVL NAPed...?
Sir Penguin Report 2/28/2009 8:33:02 AM	0

So cool down your penor Ford :)

12:38:54 Feb 28th 09 - Lord Primate Death:

Glad...i dont give a damn about no sillu market scouts. Your players attacked our cities. The excuse given - we thought you were falling to Dark...and so took them ourselves. Go find a cliff and start jumping

12:50:06 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Makedon:

Oh, but we cherish our scouts and we bring full revenge to our scout killers.
I recomend you make another graveyard for your troop, as this one is full.

15:19:14 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Fordius:

Gladiatorul.

Haha you dont know me good enough if there is something I have to do making an alliance or makeing friendly kd's I bet I've more chances in doing so than you can. And I bet I'm way more experienced in this kind of stuff than you do so please hush.

you guys napped all fantasia previous era and we werent that kind of pussies to let this era be the same that you enjoy your victories over newer / lesser kd's tells more about you than it says about us @least trying to break out of the current big kd's attidudes @least that's my thing on this :)

but if you want to play it this way :)
I will show you exactly what I'm capable of wait till next era ;)
and you'll be shocked :D

15:57:38 Feb 28th 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

we NAPed... all of fantasia... last era...

Well... We only warred LGC and dark OOP than moved on to Vengeance which we fought at the same time as we fought FATE.... well yes... I'm sure we NAPed all of fantasia last era...

16:13:19 Feb 28th 09 - Sir Darkmarsbar:

lol

it looks like there wasnt any point of me breaking our nap with retribution since a huge amount of my members have now left the kd

16:26:45 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Killstone:

"And Killerstone your wrong the time you guys napped/mapped Preds you guys werent winning the war only attacking."

ok fordius as you seem to not know how to read i will make the key words big and easy for you to read.

i said at the BEGGINING of the era (as in before OOP) we had TWO NAPS fate and E. E died OOP. we fought and killed rebirth. then we fought and killed fraternity. then we NAPed preds while we fought and klilled velocity and fought RVL on two fronts (in the area near us). i NEVER EVER said we NAPed preds when we were WINNING against RVL we naped preds because we needed to make sure we didnt get a fourth front and become overwhelmed.

and its not my fault that RVL decided to go no NAPs thats their own fault so dont use it as an excuse casue i think tis bad diplomacy. you dont have to NAP the top kingdoms on the map maybe one good NAP and one or two smaller ones to defend your flanks. then you can fight the rest which is what ret did. we just have lots of flanks and lots of wars

16:58:51 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Fordius:

Haha maybe you cant read.

than read back I said it's a part of the strategy but in my opinion I find it a weak strategy :) everyone has his own so it's not flaming it's just posting my opinion maybe you dont live in a free country so than you might not know that this is alowed :)

I even congratulated you guys I only pointed out our style of play that we purposly decided to not nap as the game would be screwed when the biggers fight the smallers and there is no honor in that :) what's wrong with this sentence :)

you guys take it to personal why I just point out my own opinions in different kind of playing styles jeesh :)

17:00:13 Feb 28th 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

haven't responded about who we NAPed on fantasia last era and who we fight...

17:12:18 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Peacemakerofdoom:

dark you need more loyal members :)

17:26:28 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Gram Reaper:

does ne1 know some1 named Gabe from maine?

19:50:57 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Killstone:

Ok ford so your opinion is that no NAPs is the best strat. My opinion is that enough NAPs to survive but not so many that you mass NAP is the best strat.

as you would say "maybe you dont live in a free country so than you might not know that this is alowed" we have different opinions no the amtter that is fine but it does not mean that you have to bash our strat and before yo usay that i bashed your strat, i was not intending to but it probobly seemed like i was. it jsut happened that our strat was the winning one in this case but it isnt always the winning strat.

and one more thing. you may think its unhonorable to NAP big kingdoms and attack smaller kingdoms. I agree with you on that. but you calling ret unhonorable becasue we are doing that i do not agree with. we fought you guys didnt we? you were the strongest fant kingdom until you died. plus we are fighting all of starta now which all in all is above our power and we arent even using all of our palyers to fight starta

21:40:59 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Sanoh:

I believe it was Fant players that said that even if you have a higher power % on lower worlds than Fant KDs, it means nothing unless you are on Fant. Saying that just because their power is higher than yours combined is just an excuse to make yourself look better.

22:33:54 Feb 28th 09 - Monarch Vicereine of Wickedness:

Mr. Peacemakerofdoom

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2/28/2009 8:12:18 AM dark you need more loyal members :)

What do you mean?

22:36:57 Feb 28th 09 - Sir Darkmarsbar:

lol he meant me, not the kd dark

22:38:34 Feb 28th 09 - Monarch Vicereine of Wickedness:

Ah thanks for clearing that up :-)

23:20:09 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Killstone:

Mr. Sanoh

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2/28/2009 3:40:59 PM

true but most if not all of the remainnig starta kingdoms are kingdoms who have fought and survived on fant before (H preds BOW)

23:26:48 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Gladiatorul:

Sir Darkmarsbar

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3/1/2009 1:13:19 AM

lol

it looks like there wasnt any point of me breaking our nap with retribution since a huge amount of my members have now left the kd

Yeh, you had no choice than to break a MAP or a NAP; next time when you make dip. arrangements I would pay closer attention to details.

But at least you could have told us: 'ok guys (RET) - I am forced to do that - in 72 hours we will attack you'

23:28:53 Feb 28th 09 - Mr. Gladiatorul:

I am saying that because we moved large armies away from our core (where you have towns - including armories), knowing we have a NAP with you, so we dont need to protect against you

00:00:37 Mar 1st 09 - Lord Primate Death:

Sucks when the shoes on the other foot doesnt it...we had the same thing happent with a KD we thought would uphold their word, allowing them to settle unchallenged and then screw us...

Oh no wait....that was your silly KD Glad....Kettle Pot Black and all that

05:37:10 Mar 1st 09 - Mr. Gladiatorul:

he he he - maybe that was the reason you killed my scouts early in the era - I was just passing though

06:15:59 Mar 1st 09 - Mr. Asriel:

Primate, im not the biggest fan of Ret, But im pretty sure your a fault see a few era's back when Fusion had a Nap with CE you attacked and took over my city which i use the last of my gold to build so i could set up a back up core, and why did you do this. Because i scrapped 10k of your 40k mine

Your an *beep*

11:51:41 Mar 1st 09 - Lord Primate Death:

Glad...I allow no scouts in or around our core...friend or foe...

And Asriel.... you got punished for not being curtious and planting a city where you felt right. When you enter another persons territory, at least have the curtiousy to ASK where you can place a city, so that you dont do the NUBB thing and place one where its gonna cost someone else there income. And TBH, I dont even remember that, but you are a klutz anyway.

13:36:47 Mar 1st 09 - Mr. Asriel:

lol i didnt see any of your citys around until i settled it

and you say i should of asked ey! WTF was i suppost to do, make a thread in ingame olitics says

"Hello, i am settleing a back up core in the top right corner of the Map, i need to know if anyone has settled there, because i dont wanna make you mad"

Seriously WTF, no matter what happens YOU NEVER!! attack a napped kingdom

16:14:33 Mar 1st 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

you attack friendly scouts? -.-"

And how can it possibly cost you income if he places a city in your core.? <.<

16:26:58 Mar 1st 09 - Sir Darkmarsbar:

yeah you have a good point Mr. Gladiatorul

16:36:18 Mar 1st 09 - Sir Penguin:

i want milk ;(

21:55:12 Mar 1st 09 - Sir Fords Boner:

Lord Primate Death

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3/1/2009 11:51:41 AMGlad...I allow no scouts in or around our core...friend or foe...

And Asriel.... you got punished for not being curtious and planting a city where you felt right. When you enter another persons territory, at least have the curtiousy to ASK where you can place a city, so that you dont do the NUBB thing and place one where its gonna cost someone else there income. And TBH, I dont even remember that, but you are a klutz anyway.

Your a *beep*tard, way to go. You have my upmost respect.

22:34:14 Mar 1st 09 - Sir Ducaralho:

about the CF time Glad, it was not officially stated but since we lost most of our presence at Fant...it happened anyway. I waited more than 72h to start moving things around at Fant thinking on that.

But i do agree we could have officialized it.

22:39:29 Mar 1st 09 - Duke Random:

i agree with wilbernub. way to go primate!!!!!!! :D

glad <3

15:56:50 Mar 2nd 09 - Sir Caradoc:

Sir Penguin

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3/1/2009 9:36:18 AM

i want milk ;(

iv got plenty of white stuff for you

17:06:01 Mar 2nd 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Clash of the Titans =)

Boppilurenn & CO (merged)

Army Info
Commander:	Mr. Ender
Kingdom:	Heaven
Size:	Group of Armies (Around 500,000)
Status:	Moving South West

Merged armies
	Boppilurenn Owned by Ender
	Stockpile Owned by Mr. Peacemakerofdoom
	Diimarchi Owned by Duke Loren Soth
	Hipparchi Owned by Duke Loren Soth
	Bamse Owned by Mr. Steen
	Indeeed Owned by Mr. Balle

vs:

Homer & CO (merged)

Army Info
Commander:	Ms. Coxy Reborn
Kingdom:	Retribution
Size:	Group of Armies (Around 500,000)
Status:	Moving North East

Merged armies
	Homer Owned by Coxy Reborn
	Batman Owned by Mr. Kilroy Kissinger
	Rawr III Owned by Mr. Killstone
	Hakuna Matata Owned by Mr. Orcinus Orca
	Knish The Terrible Owned by Mr. Theseus of Athens

17:20:08 Mar 2nd 09 - Mr. Zyrike:

it seem ret won

The army you click on is no longer here!

uh oh

17:30:20 Mar 2nd 09 - Mr. Baby:

where were they fightin?

17:34:08 Mar 2nd 09 - Sir Gilth:

I'm sorry Ruby, but that small merge of Heaven was utterly destroyed..

17:39:06 Mar 2nd 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Ah, lucky win ;) My Nazzies will be waiting for you =)

18:08:39 Mar 2nd 09 - Mr. Zyrike:

i wonder how that happened, bamse was on the hoh, and they had way more troops then you, 60 k more

18:30:13 Mar 2nd 09 - Duke Loren Soth:

hoh means nothing.. unless of course you are an Orc.

18:36:10 Mar 2nd 09 - Mr. Falcon Fan:

even then, sheer number of gaia can get you there =) (bored at the end of era 36...I tried lol)

19:28:03 Mar 2nd 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Ugh-.- RoF. I thought our merge attacked yours and lost. Nice one Gilth-.-

19:32:11 Mar 2nd 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

do not underestimate teh retributionists!

(though I had nothing to do with this attack :P)

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