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well leonidas got alittle something before he left to battle as well :)

damn there too even

Alright, considering what the two use for combat, let's think this way.

Leonidas - Long spear, sword, shield, helmet and perhaps greaves. No breastplate.

Maximus - Sword, shield, no helmet, breastplate, light gladiator armor.

Thing is, and they kinda showed this during 300, but the Greek's spears would skewer anyone packing a sword well before they came into melee range. So Maximus would probably already be bleeding profusely.

In a fight, I'd say Leonidas would win. However in terms of sheer bad@$$ery, Maximus wins since he doesn't have to fake it with really bad lines.

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"However in terms of sheer bad@$$ery, Maximus wins since he doesn't have to fake it with really bad lines."

aint that the truth, the writing in that movie made me gag.

"And on the bleeding profusely, remember his last fight? He died of a wound that was taken before the fighting started... And he still managed to win first."

yeah but that was a fight against a whiny, pathetic king, who only had enough training to not cut his own foot off.

also, a well trained spearman can keep his enemy at range, so the getting in part would be difficult unless the spearman were backed to a wall.

as far as grabbing a spear is concerned, let me see you grab just a quarterstaff at full swing and see how your hand is feeling. and if hes stabbing, you better have one excelent grip, as well as good timing not to accidentally grab the blade.

im starting to lean toward whoever gets tired first, since it would be a stalemate till then

Agreed with ET, "100's of maximus level fighters..."
Well, if those "millions" of Persians were all at the skill of a Roman General, then why didnt the persians defeat the Greec? While the Romans, with only a couple of "maximus level fighters" did?

Maximus would win, and Fizban, Maximus DID wear a helmet, remember that helmet with the spikes on top???
 He didnt have it in every battle, but when he became more famous, he did ;) And hed use it against Leonidas 2 =P

you know hed use it ;)

Lets go and ask him :D

I also would like to point out that Spartans, like leonidas did wear breastplate. it was just made of leather and some metal.  they werent all barechested asskickers like in that sad call of a historical reinactment called 300.  but, the movie was awesome.

Maximus wins no contest, Romans were all well trained, everyone of them was as good as an immortal. They had that Turtle shell thing... the Spartans had one turtle shell and that got owned while the Romans had about 300 Turtle Shells that didn't get owned.

Maximus did wear his helmet mainly, and Maximus did use a spear in the movie, in the first fight at the Colosseum he was using it, and he killed like 5 Chariots with it.


AND MAXIMUS HAD CATAPULTS AND BOLT THROWERS

Maximus Wins...

Roman General Maximus

Greek King Leonidis

If they both had the same weapons then I believe Maximus would win because one throw to the unprotected chest and pow! Or it would hit his shield and dislocate his arm. Then Maximus would say "Are you not entertained!" Leonidis would then stab him in the back and say a cheesy one-liner.

"take his men to hells gate and using the small space to his advantage... "

Chokepoint.  Oldest trick in the book.

"maximus using cavalry to hammer the germans guys from behind... both smart"

Flanking.  Second oldest trick in the book.

1v1 hand-to-hand I'm saying Leonidis, because he has been trained with BOTH spear and short sword, whereas Maximus is pretty much just short sword.

1v1 with ranged I'm saying Maximus.  Leonidis's spear and shield only work in tight formation.

Army v army, I'm saying Maximus again.  The Romans had ballista, catapults, improved bows, etc.  Enough to break a phalanx and probably finish the job off with numbers and maneuverability.

Oh yeah.  Better armor too!

    I fail to see how Maximus has demonstrated he is a brilliant general... Was it when he commanded the larger, better armored, better teched, Roman army to annihilate a bunch of barbarians? Was it when he commanded 20 gladiators and owned 3 chariots (while losing most gladiators, and the number 20 being a very low estimation)?

    And why does everyone keep saying Leonidas can only fight in a formation? Have those people seen the movie? The coolest scenes were NOT in formation...seriously, watch both movies first.

    Also, people keep saying the Romans would have owned in army vs. army.....retards, the two movies were over 500 years apart (in setting). Of course the *beep*ing Romans have better tech!

    Not thousands....but almost a thousand. I don't really remember though so I was just saying over 500....can't go wrong with a statement like that.....

If we talk about the movies and not RL its easy.

Maximus win

They are probably pretty even in strength and fighting skill but Maximus superior intelligence would give him the victory in the long run.

leonidas is very smart you know everything that happened he planned it remember in the movie he was explaining it to them preists? and how he made all them ambushes? and that thing with the wall? i could keep going on lol but it wasnt really possible to command a really small army better than leonidas did. he would have done it better than maximus could ever do with a small army like that.

    that's what i mean.......godly = *beep*ing amazing. So you're comparing him to Hannibal, Napolean, Rommel.........ok then..........................

if anything, i would compare Leonidas to those guys. he is using a small force to out maneuver the Persians and force them into a small gap and using ambushes, formations, and walls to force them to fight on his terms. that, is what brilliant generalship is all about.....

and, dude, this is about two chars from movies. stop bringing real-life stuff into this. leonidas is like THE most awesome fighter ever!!!

    Oh well....I guess Maximus is the best now.

was maximus a real person? i have no clue :X

ok thanks erunion :-P

Thanks Erunion. :-)