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Rock Hard Reginald
If you read what I wrote earlier I pointed out that building an economy, ie building mines, doesnt mean you cant fight at the same time. I can see that you got really reach from taking over Merchants of Death, but I just had another look at the reply, when you took the are there was somekind of small kd there(yellow) and they gave you some towns. But I count 10-15 90k colonies being built by you and it took you HALF the reply before you launched a major assault on TMD, that means what? A month of building mines? 6 weeks? I'm not trying to say that you where farming or whoring. You where rebuilding, its natural. I'm guessing the main part of your military resources mainly went into pumping the blockers vs us and TMD.

I dont mean to flame either, LGC are by far the best kingdom of VU and have been for a long time. With Nemesis' appearance I think the game will be more interesting and perhaps you will learn as others the importance of active diplomatics.

Boyhill.
VU has actually grown alot the latest time. I agree that mega-alliances are boring. But I dont see this as a mega-alliance. Regardless of P% BoW is a mediocre kingdom and Music has only a few active members. As for Zeon, we are aspiring to be a top kd, and perhaps we are in top5. Do you get my point?

We are aware that we naped to many this era in Zeon, however it didnt matter much, because of our Civil war, so we have been kept busy. We will learn from this and not nap as many next era and also change our internal doctrin.

Dont talk down to us for our "rebellions" though, we will never accept cheaters in the kingdom and we will not use them to get stronger, like a few other kingdoms would do (or did).

And Boyhill, gtfo.

Dont get bloody cute with him smuff, you traitor. 

And messiah, I congradulate you.  You truly are a wonderous person.  You have simultaneously managed to gain political control of BoW's court while maintaining a leadership position of an entirely different nation. 

And so I ask my fellow kd mates in BoW, whats next, a union state, with Messiah as the bloody leader?

One thing is for sure, I will never take orders from any member of ZEON, including you, smuff.

Well I was just going by what we saw in game as far as DB+LGC and not some rumor. You guys came to us, so we retaliated. As far as I know there wasn't a lot of talks between our KDs diplomacy wise. So the war just escalated to the point it's at now.

Don't really see the need to exaggerate/lie about some points though. 95% of our KD isn't dwarf, only 12/24 are which is only 50%. And if you really believe our leadership was behind the multis this era, that's just laughable. I don't think you know what went on as none happened to get into your KD. Talk to Messiah about what really happened with them instead of trying to slander Nemesis.

It would seem to me that most KDs prefer to grow a bit while warring a few other select KDs than to war the entire map. If the players in these KDs really don't like all the NAPs you'd think they'd go elsewhere (to some new aggressive KD)? Could be interesting if a KD like that was made, but I think with the game the way it is they wouldn't survive a long era.

Um, Actually Asystole you should really get your facts straight before you post since DB was fighting several other kds it was Nemesis that jumped at us not the other way around.  You're severely confused, and in my opinion being the big bad kd you are decided to jump on a kingdom fighting 3-4 other kds thinking you could reap the benefits of us being distracted.   But that is neither the point or the issue of this thread and hardly on topic at all. 

Well perhaps it's simple as we were looking for someone to war, and it happened to be you guys. As you say it gets boring to just farm all era. As far as I'm aware though you guys never asked us for a NAP or said it was unfair until now?

Yep as Messiah said he got some help. I gave him a lot of info and reported those I believed to be multis almost 2 weeks before Zeta got around to clearing them out. I just hope Zeta is more zealous next era on it, cause it's very possible they'll be back with twice as many accounts. Wouldn't count out anyone determined enough to write scripting programs to automate the playing of Visual Utopia. Heck most of these guys have been deleted multiple times already...don't know why no one is screaming for an IP ban.

As I see it LGC/DB are not the bad KD(s) now. I mean out of all those eras LGC won, how many eras did they NAP 3 or more KDs? How many Eras that they had over 30 players? How many eras did they win fighting 3 or 4 KDs?

Right now it shouldn't be MAD/Nemises VS LGC/DB it should be though BoW, ZEON, Music VS Carnage, Nemises, and several other Minority KDs.

I don't know where LGC fits in anymore, but this mega-alliance *beep* has to stop. As I see it only three Kingdoms have the balls right now (well maybe 5) LGC, DB, Carnage, FF, and PKS.

LGC/DB fighting #1 and #5 KDs (#1 farmed)
Carnage/FF/PKS (60 players) fighting ZEON, BoW, and Music (77 playres)
AND on top of that just a FEW (like 5) of Carnage is fighting off advances made by ZEON and Bow all by themselves.

maybe cause ur in a big alliance :)

no offense of course, just showing a point?

I really wonder why so many players are complaining (but those from LGC/DB and most of them do not, because they are busy fighting :b) about mega-alliances.

At the moment most of the wars are very ballanced (but the one Nemesis jumped into), because kingdom% has nothing to do with real power, coordination and time.
E.g. if you lett 1 wolf fight 5 sheeps (I am not speaking of these dangerouse ninjs sheeps), whom would you bet to win ?
So the war of Zeon/BoW/Music vs Carnage/FF/Pks is almost ballanced at the moment and all those called farmers have a lot to do to stay alive :).
Number count and even kingdom% means nothing when players have no time to play to attack or defend....

Duke Ranfaf wrote "Right now it shouldn't be MAD/Nemises VS LGC/DB it should be though BoW, ZEON, Music VS Carnage, Nemises, and several other Minority KDs."

Please bear in mind:

1) Music is very small, far too small to be a Fant kingdom in its own right even with a very strong group of core players (5-6). Right now only about 10 or so are even marginally worthwhile.

2) ZEON kicked people who had built massive power as scripting multi's inside its core. That was a major exercise and the rest of you probably didn't see all that was going on. They are also rather far from the current action and will be so for some time.

3) BoW started small but alas Karac didn't have enough activity and Drakos was moving and painting his house. So it went from 3 vices to 5 and then to 8, and somehow these began letting in anyone who applied. BoW became for this era the subprime mortgage lender of Fantasia. "No documentation needed! We never turn anyone away!"

The active, rational and loyal core of BoW is really much much smaller than the power figure suggests, a mere handful. Also it has one "house-painting elf", one dubious apparently "inactive" elf (who I really don't trust) and two rather failed elves who got badly beaten up and lost towns, one of those being me. I don't think I'm giving away any state secrets here...Carnage will already have figured it out. Also, none of you really saw how much damage Zackira did us. It was horrible.

If ZEON and Music were occupied with Nemesis and MAD, as you seem to suggest, Carnage would simply slaughter BoW. Even now they will most likely achieve that while fighting Music too.

BoW at the moment resembles a recruiting bootcamp, not a kingdom. Some of our players will make it as cooks, some as payoffice clerks and some will be shunted on "medical grounds", mainly dropsy. There it is.

Mr. Asystole
Well I was just going by what we saw in game as far as DB+LGC and not some rumor. You guys came to us, so we retaliated. As far as I know there wasn't a lot of talks between our KDs diplomacy wise. So the war just escalated to the point it's at now.

I think this needs correction. We never really came to you. You came to us, when you were setting up armories pretty close to our core. We only came to the arms that you set up to try and erase them, they were meant for us anyways.

Crissxcross

You cant possibly belive that the current alliance system is anywhere near fair!  PKS and FF are no where near as coordinated as ZEON, Music, and BoW. 

Gothrim

conclusion of this thread. no MAPs next era, period. also, maximum 3 NAPs!

stop smoking drugs criss :)

moral:

freeze to death, smell like shiat to death, or anger to death, or yell to death.

death to all!

SOOOOOOOO basically you're staying BoW, ZEON, and Music just don't have the balls to attack Nemises. I can understand Music, maybe even BoW, but ZEON has farmed as long as Nemises and that would be a good war. Meanwhile though the smaller KDs and the non-farmers would fight thier own little war, but as I said ZEON doesn't have the balls. They try and try to beat down Carnage, but yet they keep failing. It reminds me of a mountain getting smashed by the ocean, the ocean keep*beep*ting, but everytime it hits it gets repelled.

Lol, well, I might as well give up trying to make BoW war ZEON (though they would in all likelihood win such a war lol).

All we can do now is hope that nemisis goes thru puberty some time in the next couple days.

I think we all should just hunt down and kill Boyhill like a mad dog.

-Rob

yea, im in it too! whats wrong with you people

So, Xuaron says what any person with half-a-brain already knows. Nem made a NAP (albeit temporary) with Zeon, on top of the NAPs with Carnage and MAD.

I think the pussy purge needs to be more effective.

Well, to be fair Fizban, I think that "temporary NAP" was extended to every kingdom in the nearest vicinity to them by the looks of it. How brave!

No, I mean figurative pussies. I like yours so you can stay. ;-)

all this talks make it seems like ya'll want three man kingdom again haha..

yay, Lgc 1,2,3,4,5,6 vs. Carnage 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,a,b...
now thats are huge alliances.. (just an example)