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Universe Creation
04:17:51 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Peaceful Miner:

I started this new topic to try to bring in some fun debates.

How do you think the universe began?


04:20:59 Jun 7th 07 - Lord Senturu:

Chuck norris round house kicked God. what was left was the universe


04:21:06 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Boom Boom JR Style:

GOD created it there is no other way cause think about a lab was it made by chance...NO! it was made by humans so how can people think that everything we know is made by chance?


04:30:27 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Jibbly:

i think that the earth is just the egg of a humungus being of great power and we are all just the little sperm cells trying to race and fertilize the egg...when we die is because we found the egg and are now being born elsewhere


05:32:31 Jun 7th 07 - Sir Ironpick II:

Big Bang.

Jibbly, I would have thought we'd be more like single-cell bacteria that consumes and craps right back out where we live, and that is what we do to the earth :)


06:49:04 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Thardin:

GOD created it there is no other way cause think about a lab was it made by chance...NO! it was made by humans so how can people think that everything we know is made by chance?

Well then who or what made god?

 


07:45:51 Jun 7th 07 - Demonic Shezmu:

I made a more perverted verion of myself and called it...yess yess...GOD!


08:28:43 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Phantom Liano:

i thought u shud all know i created the universe


12:28:29 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

GAD DAM, u know we had this discussion once, that thread went completly mad with people typing thousands of words.

Anyway, since the big bang theory is proven I guess you have my ansver.


12:51:55 Jun 7th 07 - Demonic Shezmu:

well yeah...the "Big Bang" was actually me slapping my perverted version (aka GOD) around the place...


13:40:50 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

99% of the people on this forum don't have a *beep*ing clue about anything most of the time, what makes you think a debate about the origin of the universe will be an exception from that rule.


14:09:44 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Boom Boom JR Style:

heck no one has a clue theres edivence all over the place saying this and that so really this topic is for fun


17:04:20 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Dakarius:

Ghouma, the big bang theory has not been proven, hence the name Big Bang Theory. It is possible but not proven.


17:09:07 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Shyers The Return:

i thought Cobra made it, he tells me he is a god...


17:33:54 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

"Big Bang Theory"

I hate it when people use arguments they don't understand. In science Theory doesn't have the same meaning as in everyday life. The scientific equivalent of the everyday word theory is hypothesis, while when they use theory  it means they actually have some proof and  experiments  and observations to back it up.

A scientific theory  is used to explain  something  and using it you make a prediction, which  if turns out to be true reaffirms the theory  if the prediction is wrong you go back and look at your theory and make  improvements to it.

In the case of the Big Bang Theory they predicted that there will be  background radiation so they went to look for it and found it. Unless you know of a prediction done with the Theory and the experiment's results contradicted the prediction please don't use arguments you know *beep* about.


PS:  Did you really have to prove my initial statement in this thread correct from the first post?


18:30:56 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Dakarius:

I did not claim that it was without any factual support, now did I? The Big Bang Theory has simply not been proven to be totaly factual, hence not proven to be fact. It is an informed hypothesis, but a hypothesis nonetheless. Many aspects of it have yet to be disproven, yet many have not been proven.


18:37:24 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

How, when, where was it proven? Where is a site with this information? Where did you get your information? What was involved in the experiment or observation?

After you've explained this, please tell me how they proved that a microrganism could evolve on a big rock? How that microrganism could evolve into a fish? How that fish turned into a land animal, how that land animal turned into a monkey and then became a human? Please, I'm all agog to know!

Through observation and careful study, nothing, I repeat nothing has evolved to gain information. In each study where a plant or animal changed, it lost information, and has not gained any. The change occured because a controlling strain in the DNA was lost, or because it was a cross-bread, and all the information it had was a blend from it's two parents.


19:24:36 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Sure, I read about it in a book called Big Bang by Simon Signh who explains the creation of the universe so that simple people can understand it aswell, its an intresting read.

And erunion why so upset? Its not like religious people ever care for evidence. Do you think there is an advanced biologist in theese forums? To ansver your second question easy tho, with evolution. And didnt that microorganism evolve in the water? Also I think u are wrong with the proces, as far as I know it went from bacteria to fish to mermaid to man.

And there are plentyfull of emperical evidence for evolution, do like darwin and look at ilands where the animals have adapted to the conditions there.

If u want to be a religous nut, please be one but please never open your mouth about it public.


19:35:07 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:


19:54:01 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

That sign, is silly. I most heartily disagree with it. Like you. I have seen things from those islands, but how does he know they actually changed? What evidence do they give of evolution?

If you want to be an Atheist Evolutionist nut, please be one. But please, never open you mouth about it infront of people. Your blind faith in evolution is sickening. You never even strive to see if your stand points can be dis-proven before you state them, and are never slow to insult the intellect of people who have actually done a little bit of research, instead of blindly eating what they were force fed...


19:54:17 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

Link have fun reading


I'd love to hear this proof that you have. Nothing much better people than you have come up with and went up against evolution won.

EDIT: It would be helpful to your argument if before posting on a topic you would actually take a time to understand what that topic is really about. Right now you're just a religious nut case that has no clue what the *beep* he's talking about but still posts before he doesn't know any better.


20:51:37 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

Wow. You really don't believe i do research do you?

There's definately hardly any evidence pointing to a global flood eh? The fact that there are massive schools of this type of extinct sea-creature, one that is known to go with currents, in a circle, all around the world fossilzed pointing in the same direction? The direction, that models of the flood say the flood would have gone? (Of course, these models don't have any scientific research attached to them. They couldn't! We're just a bunch of religious nuts! How could we do research with advanced scientific equipment etc? We obviously aren't smart enough to use it!) That all points to evolution, doesn't it? All points to there being no global flood, eh? The fact that there are rocks found in several places that obviously came from somewhere, oh 1000 miles or so away doesn't point to massive flooding on a global scale, does it?

No. There can't be any proof that the bible is accurate, can there? And this is so not the tip of the iceberg, is it?


21:12:43 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

I'm sorry, what? You lost me at the global flood part, I reread my posts and I found nothing of floods, but that's besides the point anyway since your entire post is one big rant under the form of questions.


21:44:37 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Im sorry what does that have to do with anything? And for your information, the great flood is most likly based on the formation of the Bosporus not some weird *beep* some nuts at Bob Jones university made up. Alot of the stories in the bible are based on older stories and is in that way intreresting.

About moving stones... How old are you? I learned about *beep*ign erosion when I was about 14 in school... You dont know about that?


21:54:22 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

Oh yes, I do. Just since when has it happened over that kind of distance without a major event?

And Supercalifragilistic, I was being sarcastic. Hence I lost you, for you probably don't have the brains to follow sarcasm.

Ghouma, I'll go into what I was saying in depth later today or tommorow if you really can't understand, but I'm kind of busy right now.


21:54:44 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Religous people are not welcome on the internet, it dosnt like you and you should leave if u wish to speak about ur belifes.


22:01:31 Jun 7th 07 - Dark Lord Osiris:

I AM THE TRUE GOD the christian god is false!


22:04:31 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

"And Supercalifragilistic, I was being sarcastic. Hence I lost you, for you probably don't have the brains to follow sarcasm."

Oh and here I thought you were acting like a retard ... oh wait, no I was right, you aren't just acting, you are retard. That makes things much clearer.

When I look at the thread title I read 'Universe Creation', now I don't know about you but that tells me the topic is the creation of the universe, not flood and not evolution. If you want to debate(read: rant like a nubtard) about those topics please make a thread with that topic. Or better yet, stop posting and let people that can actually debate do that.


22:06:08 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

You Ghouma, are a close-minded religious intolerant. Perhaps the internet really doesn't like Evolutionists? Maybe it thinks they're mean? Poor internet, it must be so scared with all these nasty Ghouma's going around....

Osiris, rofl. :P


22:06:58 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Also I must applaud you on the irony. I take it ur entire rant of god was ironic, well u had me fooled I thought u really was a sterotypical bible belter XD.

 Good on ya!


22:11:05 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

Now now super. What you haven't the wits to understand is that the Bible is accurate, something I have was trying to show in the last bit.

You know something? The most common indication that someone is a Nub (someone who doesn't know a thing about what they are doing or saying, but won't admit it) is that they call everyone who doesn't agree with them Nub, nubtard or some other varient. Need I say more? I don't think so.

 


22:11:06 Jun 7th 07 - Dark Lord Osiris:

ghouma is correct the religous are the minority online


22:13:39 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

My opinions and statements Ghouma, I believe in creationism because of what I have observed and seen, and the most logical Creator (and the one with the most evidence) is the Christian God.

I am not a bible-belter, but from what i have seen and observed, it is extrememly accurate. Therefore, it is worth study, and I believe in it. (But, not blindly, like you blindly believe in evolution)


22:14:10 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

I was raised as a catholic, but i believe in that the theory of evolution is more accurate. 


22:14:32 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Neratu:

Does it realy matter how it all started?


22:15:51 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

That must be it, you can see somebody that is talking out his ass by the fact that they actually post sources. The guys that post nothing but sarcasm and irony are the ones that know what they're talking about.

EDIT: Anyway I've had enough of your nonsense, unless somebody else writes a post worthy of an answer I'm out of here.


22:16:07 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

I don't blame you for going away from catholics, the Catholic church is corrupt, and improvements what it wants changed to suit itself. However, the Theory of Evolution has many, many holes and problems that put together, make the whole process next door to impossible.


22:17:35 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

oh btw, erunion, can you point to me the extremely accurate facts?


22:17:36 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

Super, Check the last thread at all like this where I posted many, many links etc, things said by experts and the like. This thread I just don't have the time to do more than go by memory, as I'm extrememly busy right now...


22:17:46 Jun 7th 07 - Lord Oogalybooogalyboo:

oh my gawd!!!!

if this continues ima have to say something, now lick my feet and begone with you evul sinner!!


22:18:28 Jun 7th 07 - Duke Erunion Telcontar:

What do you want to be pointed to Haywood?

*stares at Oogly*

Signing out till I have more time,

Duke ET


22:20:13 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

errrm, the extremely accurate facts you were talking about?


22:20:41 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

"the Theory of Evolution has many, many holes and problems that put together, make the whole process next door to impossible."

Why don't you start telling about these holes, I'm sure we'd all like to hear about them.


22:23:00 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:


22:26:51 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Yes im curious, you say there are lacks of proof for the scientific theorys, but dosnt name any, but there is absolutly no proof what so ever for a personal god. If I was to really flame christianity and religion I wouldnt even know where to begin.

On the intarwebs we dont like people who are religous and you wont have a chance in this debate, if u like to keep ur faith u should stop using theese tunnels.


22:28:03 Jun 7th 07 - Lord Oogalybooogalyboo:

btw ET, im Oya the guy you argued for ages with in the last thread :)


22:59:44 Jun 7th 07 - Sir Ironpick II:

Big Bang is a theory.

Evolution is a theory.

They both have some pretty damn strong evidence supporting them.  But humans will never really know whether we are right or not, because we lack one major factors needed to PROVE such a test:  time.

Of course, soon we're going to have to dig down into the definition of "proof" is and whether humans are able to arrive at any complete means of knowledge and all kinds of crap like that.  I've had this debate before.


23:58:44 Jun 7th 07 - Mr. Boom Boom JR Style:

heck none of them have good proof they both have stinky proof in fact and dont say a word to me cause im getting off after this and anyone who belives in evoloution is soooooooooooo!!!!! stuipd.......u have to be the dumbest person on earth..no let me resay that anyone most be the dumbest on earth to belive that junk and i agree with eurnion


00:11:04 Jun 8th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

I'd make fun of you, but I don't have to. You're a joke by yourself. Thanks for the laugh.


00:17:48 Jun 8th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Another retard, I belive in evolution Boom. You say evolution dosnt have proof? It has. Look it up in a *beep*ing dictionary, the understanding part for you might be a problem though. There are nothign that proves anything else then Christianity was made as a way to control the lower classes by giving the rulers a divine right to rule. What they didnt have in many of the bronze age religions.

Iron, sure science cant ansver all questions and I get annoyed when people think it should be able to. How long have we been able to pratice real science on a large scale? Not for long and still people think scientists should be able to give them all the big questions. Instead of being disapointed not evrything u wonder can be ansverd by science, you should be amazed we can understand so much of the universe. Instead of running the the first best person who gives you an easy solution (religons).

To quote Einstein: One may say the eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility.


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