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21:16:01 May 18th 10 - Mr. Secret Agent Onslaught: Jesus was a Jewish man, and Jesus is God, so does this make Christian's Jewish? | ||||
21:17:00 May 18th 10 - Duke Polydeuces: Lol, Christians do not believe that Jesus is God though. | ||||
21:19:59 May 18th 10 - Mr. Secret Agent Onslaught: Then explain this quote from the bible. "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father."
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21:31:17 May 18th 10 - Ms. Almost Priceless: hes saying he looks like his father, because he's related... duh :P | ||||
21:38:55 May 18th 10 - Mr. Secret Agent Onslaught: Here's another quote from the Holy Bible for you. “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ” Explain this one. Actually, on second thought, I'll explain it for you feeble minded ones. It says that both their God and Savior is Jesus Christ (a Jewish man).
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21:49:19 May 18th 10 - Mr. Will Kellys Husband: Jesus was Jewish and christians would effectively argue they are the fulfillment of the jewish original faith(not judaism which is slightly different). You can believe in the Jewish god and follow the seven commandments to Noah and be saved as a gentile(non Jew) and this doesn't make you a Jew. To be a Jew as a convert is a rigorous process. It could be argued in some ways that christianity , if not a fulfillment of the Jewsih faith, is a sect of it. Still a christian isn't a jew unless he was born one... Jesus did infact claim to be God, hence the pharisees tearing at their clothes in blasphemy when he used the famed "I AM" which was the same as the burning bush gave as God's name to Moses...in translation it is YHWH or jehovah as we know him(Hashem to the Jews today). C S Lewis , one of the great Christian writers(and writer of the chronicles of Narnia) put forth this: "I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronising nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to. ... Now it seems to me obvious that He was neither a lunatic nor a fiend: and consequently, however strange or terrifying or unlikely it may seem, I have to accept the view that He was and is God." | ||||
21:49:21 May 18th 10 - Sir Mcmax The Short: Christians does not worship God nor Jesus. They live with it. | ||||
21:57:27 May 18th 10 - Mr. Secret Agent Onslaught: "Christians does not worship God nor Jesus. They live with it." Then why do they prey? | ||||
22:16:52 May 18th 10 - Prince Mithras of Arunun: ...In response to the original question: | ||||
22:23:36 May 18th 10 - Lady Patches Ohoulihan: Jesus was Muslim, he was Muhammed's son. | ||||
22:48:35 May 18th 10 - Mr. Erunion Telcontar: Well put Mithras, sums it up nicely. I am 100% with you. | ||||
22:54:12 May 18th 10 - Grumpy old Bastard: Anyone ever heard of the holy trinity and all that jazz? Sheesh... | ||||
23:20:55 May 18th 10 - Lady Patches Ohoulihan: I think you'll find Muhammed was born in 571 BC. | ||||
23:23:03 May 18th 10 - Mr. Erunion Telcontar: Oh dear. | ||||
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