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Intreseting to listen to someone without a basic education.

if you want to reason like that ...  history for kids ...  times change, values change, sometimes it means progress, sometimes it doesn't.   and if you take everything out of context ...    and didn't the muslims invade spain? so, wasn't it right to kick them back out  (following your arguementation here)?    

by just wanting to fight for your rights, you do the same things you accuse others of.       you give them an excuse, you admit not wanting to be reasonable ...

things that happened hundreds of years ago ... sure, is it really worth clinging on to that?      (i'd have to fight the french, the dutch, the english, the barbarians, the vikings, the celts, the spanjards, etc ...)              do you honestly believe that is the best/right way to go about these things?  wouldn't it be better to try and learn from these things and not make the same mistakes again?

mij ,

if anybody kill sombody of your faqmily won't you hate it , just imagine , no body was killed from mine , but you say you won't hate somthing happen in the past , well if your parents are deid , won't you hate that they are dead ,

bruto ,

i donno , i mean the face can tell that he is kinda nerve ,

hand made bombs , i only meant , we don't have a nucler wepons , but you have , that mean we don't keep such a horrible things , but you do ,

who is the terorist then ?

see we are more better , we refuse to have them , and iran only made them to make an elcricty power , but you american used it against japan , that mean you use it bad , you are terorist people is army uniforms ,

oh lol , is that your reson you didn't know the eastern roman empire , so what ? if you know the byzantium empire , you know that it's the east empire of romans ,

give better answer please

well , lol , i only do this IF anything happen to alkiba  , i mean you take down the important thing for us , we do the same ,

and again , IF anything happen , make that like a deal

that's true , and revenge isnt that good , but i tried to say , don't do it , cuz if you do it , we will do this , i had to give somthing in this deal , to make no revenge , though my deal is based on revenge ,

A stalemate, yes, if both parties are acting rationally. But what if either party believed there is life after death and everyone would go the heaven after deploying nuclear weapons? What if either party made a mistake and let madmen or a group of terrorists get control of the nuclear devices even for a moment?

again , look iran have an army , so you can't say they are terorist people , or crazy , they made clear , that they will use it only for power makin .

oh come on if bush isnot crazy , all people on earth are geniuses

If you wanted to continue on that path why start on earth at all? Why not always be in heaven? Maybe earth is a trial to get into heaven? It is a mystery.

As for a terrorist getting hold of a nuclear weapon I shudder at the thought, for they could cause the destruction of the world (Sounds like a good idea for a book ehh?)

wow , after that i have no doubt that you are stupid , omg lol

1 ) not all of who die goes heaven , japan don't worship god , they go hell

mate , i donno , i think sakaal's last post beated all of his other posts in stupiding , i had to invent a word for you ,

islam said that suicide is wrong , not all peope go heaven , i myself who worship god , and do everything don't know if i am going ther , it's too hard to go , mohamad's friend who was promised in paradise three times , is always feared to go hell .

2 ) daka , actually our father adam was in heaven , but he gone cuz he pissed god , and god likes us even more than angels , and god said : " adam didn't leave the heaven only to come back ".

it is a trial as you said ,

sakaal , dear friend , if nucler wepons are good things , why you don't want iran to have them ???

are you going nuts ?

Oh, and sorry, I almost forgot one word from my list, namely satire. Although, I guess you would probably not recognize any of these words even if they stared at you right in the eyes (hint: right here, right now).

And I find it kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I'm dying
Are the best I've ever had
I find it hard to tell you
I find it hard to take
When people run in circles
It's a very, very
Mad World
Mad world

all i know is you saved your lives , i know 50 life is better than 30 , but america didn't do that at that basic ,

all i know nucler bombs must not be used , not in any issue ,

see we are talking about your terorist ( i like this )

sakaal shut the *beep* up u dont know wat ur talking about ur an athiest

mbeidas, i understand what you mean.    you are right, every country should have equal rights ...  

but consider this  (not about who may be right or wrong),    the americans dropped the nukes in japan, true,   the world was horrified by the effects ...  the result of this dropping, eventually was the cold war.

nukes are denied to every country for a couple of years now (however, the americans don't want to sign the proliferation-pact themselves),   they are 'banned', just because of the huge power those weapons yield.    (they are far worse than clusterbombs)

imagine, that isreal used a nuke ... or you used a nuke ... who will you kill? don't you think a lot of innocent people will suffer? while the ones you want to hit, will be in bombshelters pushing other buttons in retaliation?

you should not be denied nuclear power to help your people, to give energy ... but, how can you trust people or countries where it seems ok to bomb things? where bombs are being set of at footballmatches, at markets, at mosks, where the killing seems very random?    how can you trust people or countries if they don't want to talk? if they don't want to consider international agreements? (the americans are not better than you are in this)

any sane person, will never use a nuke ... unfortunately, some people don't give the impression to be very sane or rational ... a weapon that can kill every living thing on earth ... isn't it normal that it is denied to build such weapons?

all i'm saying is, that nukes will not solve your problem, it will make it worse.

and sakaal i do know wat im talking about

(It's  non-proliferation-pact,  but you get the point)

if you are so proud about it ...

why do you show the agressive, irrational, hating side of it?  you are showing why it can be dangerous (like any other 'religion').

why not show where it says to be good to everything around you?  (christians can use biblephrases that can do the same)       what would be the use or good in fighting eachother becuase we believe different things?

in the end, everyone wants the same ... peace and understanding, a good happy life, healthy kids and a bright future.

muslims are not attacked because of their religion, that is just the excuse, try and see through that, don't fall into the trap ... by allowing yourself to loose rationalty you give 'certain people' the opportunity to get support, use your ideas and fervor for the wrong reasons (bombings, etc.) and eventually war (plunder) you.

some people try to blame things on religion, religion is just the tool, the excuse, the propaganda ... it all goes well until it starts radicalising ...

justanius , wher are you from ?

idk , but you just blow somethings on me , and your not thanked , now kol 5ara o etl3 braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa , el3n abo la 7nna

sakaal i must translate cuz of the treatment we have

( eat my chet , and go outttttttttttttttttttttttt , i hate the father of a man called hana )

nvm sakaal , little baby,

well mij , iran repreasents a country ,  they don't make the messy things around , like that bombing , in fact iran didn't have a troops battle since the iraq-iran war , now , we all know that hitting israel with a nucler bombing will even come to my house , so i am sure that iran don't want that , and i don't think iran in that stupid to hit america , i mean it will be a war , no body can take , and islam didn't order in that ,

and iran said that the nucler wepon is just for energy , they don't want to sell petrol always , and north korea , i heard they shut the elecrticty after midnight till morning , on all people just to save it .

nuclear power is not the same as nuclear weapons. 

the materials, the tools, the knowhow, ...   the rules (safety, so we don't get another tjernobyl)

PoD,
Nuclear power usually means powerplants that produce clean energy for industry and homes.

Nuclear weapons are weapons of mass destruction (and also tactical weapons) that are used to kill people.

Justanius, on these forums, if we were adults, we kept the argument between ideas and not between people. Debate should be ideas vs. ideas, not people vs. people. So far I have seen that most Muslims I have talked with lack the ability to understand humour well, especially black humour. That may be one reason why you say you dislike me. Other may be that I oppose all religions and other beliefs in supernatural thins, especially when they are taken literally and seriously.

Still, I can say I like many religious people. I just don't like all their ideas.

In this game VU, Justanius, I was a member of your kingdom (Dark Riders) for a short while. I decided to leave, because I must say you run the kingdom poorly. E.g. you deleted all information on the kingdom forums randomly without warning, left the game-world (Mantrax) mid-era when you were not doing well enough, etc. You told me I don't have any chance of survival if I stay in Mantrax, but I stayed and I am now doing quite well, so you were wrong there too. You even offered me "apprenticeship" to learn play the game the way you do, which shows a rather supercilious attitude. Now, why would I want to learn to play the game in a bad way?

To me you have shown a very bad attitude, and you even come here to the Misc forum continue your arrogant display. So, I can say so far the feeling is mutual. However, this kind of argument should be between the two of us, and not on a public forum. Please don't bring it here. On the other hand I'm not surprised, because the teachings of Islam are full of contempt towards others (non-Muslims). Maybe your religion makes many think and behave like that.

I am now in Predators and I must say Predators have good leadership.

Stop the war. I pray. Its only buissness.

ok kongras is saying that suidi arabia isn't doing anything america want ,

i am on my promise , anything happens to kaiba , hell will be burn on fake jesus tomb ,

ghouma , ty , but god said this is the end , sakaal , i am cring the elmhdy is coming , his name is mohamad bn abdallah , you will be a muslim soon , yay ...............................................

"hand made bombs , i only meant , we don't have a nucler wepons , but you have , that mean we don't keep such a horrible things , but you do , "

Sure, but you just said that you have more firepower, which you don't.

"see we are more better , we refuse to have them"

You honestly believe you wouldn't make them if no one were to stop you?  Hah.

"give better answer please"

What more do I need to say?  I call a can of Pepsi and soda and you call it a pop, does that mean either of us are wrong, or is it just a matter of what we call it at the time being?

"can't he just say , ok japan berlin is down , we are ready for a ceasfire with you ,"

America asked for surrender prior to dropping the first bomb.  And then again after the second.  It was only when the emperor (who was deemed to be a living god, and thus undefeatable--back to religious extremism) agreed to end the war.

"can't he just say , ok japan berlin is down , we are ready for a ceasfire with you ,"

Good luck next era.  Planning on going back to Fantasia?

"no , lol nice example , but normaly , who know the byzantium empire , ha , the first thing he know that it's the easter empire of rome , "

And thus all I was asking for was clarification.  Do you have any idea how many people called themselves Romans?

"Surrender , i said peace not surrender , "

Yeah... um... w*beep*nd, and thus peace is brought, when one side surrenders.  I'll assume you already know that Japan was the agressor, and was trying to become an imperialist empire by conquering lands all over the Pacific, rather succesfully...