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a miracle?

Ffs, can you jsut drop this discussion. Prince has shown hes  an uneducated, ignorant, arrogant 14 year old boy. Why continue discussing hte issues with him? Disucss something more relavant instead. Let me help you.

New subject, global stock crash, yes or no? WIll we have a revolution?

Yeah, the sub prime loan situation is interesting.

i didn't say he wrote it , i said , we wrote it after mohamad death in one year , mohamad was the first man who know all the koran cuz he ofcours gave it to us , koran wasn't gave as bible or the old testemnt a book , it was seprated ,

lol , whatever , make me the stupid , you won much and you didn't know how to lose , 14 years old boy made you about 20 people lose , at least not me , what god gave me

 man how old are you ithakan , we made the start !!!!!  see history

jews took palestine by americans wepons in 1948

israel attacked eygpt in 56 with brtian and france , and with americans wepons , and then america said we will make peace though israel wepons come from her

in 67 israel attacked 5 countries in power wepons , after the war , israel size was doubled

in 73 eygpt in a hard battle took sini back , if america didn't interupt , the eygptian flag would be put on the kenest and tel aviv

in 82 israel attacked lebanon to kill the people who ran from palestine ,

in 87 israel attacked every man don't have the israeli passport ,

in 91 america entered iraq to make peace between kwit and iraq , though we didn't call anybody ,

in 93 israel sized control on all the things , gave us nothin and the dream of librity is gone ,

in 2001 sharon entered the aksa makin anther war is lasted to now ,

AND THIS IS ONLY PALESTINE HISTORY

my country was destroyed and you people sitting saying that we are the bad , we started cuz we attacked 2 towers ,

and cuz they didn't find any nucler power in iraq ,

hell , i don't want your help , it wuld be better at least to ask me for one

we didn't creat the dinmite actually a swedish man did , nobel i think

we didn't made the nucler power , we didn't fight in the world wars ,

ther is no land belong to people are not muslim taken by muslims ,

BUT ther is lands belong to muslims are taken by non muslims ,

well i am thinking , 3 years on war , and you didn't take all the petrol yet , yea i am waiting till you take the gas , and makin at least more than one million iraqi dead , and say sorry

people , prince have an idea number 1 , and you have the idea number 2 ,

as i see , you are trying to convens prince with number 2 , and prince is trying in number one ,

and it looks like no body will change his mind so end this please ,

I said that the attack on afghanistan was the result of the murder of random citizens in kamikaze attacks, not the other way around. I do not agree with the american policy and illegal attack on Iraq, but the fact that they are doing something wrong does not mean that you are right.

And yes I find it quite odd that a religion wich states that unbelievers and ex-muslims should be battled with the sword calls itself peacefull. We currently have someone in the dutch news who is publicly ex-muslim and he is constantly threatend with death by the religion of peace, because he no longer shares their views. It seems something like: Islam is peace and if you dont agree with us we will kill you.

Is it so unlikely that of  millions of people somebody doesnt like it.
The problem is that of all the muslims the media pick those few and makes it a HUGE deal (over and over again) and now they already convinsed you that islam is that what few outof millions do??

wtf are you talking about you dint use that word in you last post.

ghouma , if all what i said didn't happen , i wouldn't care to answer on these topics , past made the reality ,

and IF we are the people who destoyed the world trade centre , well do the same , only the same ,

oh , "extremist" before muslim , do you want to say

Religious islam Extremist terror

click here , and see , well you don't need to understand the song talken , just see the photo's

and then judge

all im saying is in your last post you talk about(blame) the following.
quotes: ''afganistan'' ''a religion'' ''islam''

ur saying in your previous post u mentioned extremists and you mean them?
extremeists isn the same as afganistan a religeon/ islam

That is sad,

Isreal has no right to use a living being as a sheild.

i think, that if the normal muslim-community, would protest against the suicide-attacks, and against the extreme, against the missuse of their religion, alot more people would be willing to put pressure (to help) ...

normal muslims get blamed for things they can't help, why don't they react against that?

it's not like all football-supporters are hooligans, the normal fans protest against them, show the world that they do not agree ...   by not reacting, they would show it's ok, hooligans are our heros! ...  

so, muslims, why don't they condemn the 'rotten' part of their communtity?  (we didn't hear anyone say bin laden is wrong with what he did,  but then some months later you all protest against some cartoons?)

(and this not just about the palestine-issue, generally speaking)

Prince of darkness and Ithakas stop posting in this thread, you are both *beep*s. You can debate with each other with ingame messages. Anyone who isnt 18 years old, stay the *beep* out of this discussion.

*ignores ghouma*

what I am saying is that you should not kill INNOCENT CITIZENS

a rebel kills soldiers, a terrorist kills citizens.

if the palastinians keep killing citizens then the UN  nor any country will support palastinian independence, and that is the only way Israel will ever grant it. But I presume your peacefull religion says they should continue to kill their citizens and keep this conflict going. Their is NOTHING they will accomplish by spoiling more innocent blood. 

ithaken we are not saying you are wrong you jsut look at it too personally..
For you one death means alot the other nothing...
Like in the new one death is shown with video and sorrow while the other is a statiscal number on a graphic if shown at all.

Dont act out of feeling and if you do dont trust everything.

@ithaken
in the video soldiers are killing PEOPLE... simular to this one a mass scale.

to you
9/11  inocent US citizens die..

us invades afganistan. (those are not thousends of inocent citizes dieing.)
just US invades afganistan..

and about your last post dont jsutify killing while you dont know *beep* about.the issue. (supporting neo-zeonism = killing)
or wach the last link (to a video)

so, again, why doesn't the muslimcomunity condemn the malicious actions?

(the actions done in the name of allah or muhammed or whatever? and these actions DO kill other muslims aswell ... why is there no response to that?)

"normal muslims get blamed for things they can't help, why don't they react against that? "

I'm sad to say it but it's not so much different from America... the popular opinion is against the war, but most Americans who believe the war is wrong will do nothing out of their way to stop it..  So thus all Americans are labeled by others.

Anyway, PoD, you never did answer me as to why God couldn't have spoken to 4 people.

I did not say that. I just stated that as long as they bomb there wont be peace, if they want it or not. Israel will just not accept it, because they are *beep*s too.

No it was not the people of afganistan who did it, that is why the attacks where aimed at the taliban. They refused to stop aiding al Quada wich was demanded in the ultimatum. Thus supporting the attacks. Wich I think is a valid reason to attack a country

Al quada is a US tool.
In its name all the attemts for civil war are done in iraq. and the Iraqi resistanse is warring them also.
the only attcks agains US is from what they are doing in iraq and afganistan and their support of isreal. (veto'ing all UN actions for peace and justice)

that is the reason to all attacks.
Your leaders are fueling all the terrorism in the world..
they and all the media are acting like its a solution.

we dont support al quida..
and you dont support republicans?

many do support the rebels in iraq and afganistan (wich arnt al quida)
and they dont kill civilians since they are fighting in their own country and everybody send there is there to support/supply the war. and they know waht they do better then anyone.

many iraqi and afgan civilians who dont want to fight do die.

we are agains violance and killing but u fail to see that 99% of the casualties are on 'our side' by that i mean muslims who just happen to be there. and tehy are like us. US kill people who dont have anything to do with the attacks just the same.

everything they do they do on purpose it was their intention to create a civil war.

"There is no diffrence in buchering people."

What if you're butchering butchers?  Afghanistan was a clear-cut goal, attack and remove Taliban forces, aimed at known terrorists.  Do you sacrafice a few civilian lives to kill terrorists, which may or may not save more lives in the future?

Iraq was indeed a bad and costly excuse for war against unknown enemies, but it did take down Saddam and many terrorists or terrorist-related groups.  But it is quite likely it has bred new terrorists to take place of the old ones.  What about being granted democracy after decades of dictatorship?  It certainyl has helped some, but it's taken the lives of thousands.  Who can say whether conflict will be "worth it" until it'll all over and being looked at in retrospect?

It is said "the most disadvantageous peace is better than the most justified war," but clearly many feel it is worth their lives to take away the disadvantages, whether it's the US Marine or Iraqi insurgent.

Where is the answer to it all?

kol 5ara