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Religious Extremist terror
17:26:51 Oct 6th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

lol u sound just like a american omg great democacy.
lets vote to take away minority rights. well its a democraty. and if it fails wel do it anyway and nobody will now.. since theyl be busy frearing the minorities. becouse some want to kill us.... wich we arranged (well at least as many as we can we will just show them as the few we manged to shape)


20:14:09 Oct 6th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

do you even know what you really want


20:29:29 Oct 6th 07 - Mr. Soccermage:

ignorant.............


21:10:57 Oct 6th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

deadii , breadlord

damn you 


21:28:11 Oct 6th 07 - Mr. Benltf:

dreadii i just want to know what the *beep* are u getting out of leaving this thread open or undeleted the thread  *beep*ing stupid  so just stop being an ass


21:32:48 Oct 6th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

what can you say , he is an @$$ etc etc , i don't want my account get deleted .

look even if you made all the koran wrong and  i can see it's wrong i won't leave islam , and if an atheist saw a jesus coming down the sky and done a mericale it's also won't  leave his life style , so ther is no point


18:31:03 Oct 8th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

@ soccermage: i gues kindof stubbern n arogant but im not ignorant.

@ Benltf :  uhm freedom of speech. right to defend yourself. arnt those things in your constitution? i can almost understand alex saying it :D
here people can tell their opinions and the truth of what they think.

@ alex: yes what many people say is bad but more then not saying those things the problem is them thinking it so without even knowing a single muslim or woever they blame for these things. If you wont step up for your religeon and thell them what you think they will alway keep thinking what they are conditiond to think by mass media and their enviorment.


19:09:06 Oct 8th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

war ..... yeah

what is a good for

absulatly nothin

from ruch hour movie , lol


19:30:51 Oct 8th 07 - Mr. Mushashi:

and again, it is not your religion ... it's the extreme factions of these religions that are attacked, not the normal people.   so, maybe you can come down from your high horses and try to understand what is said ...


22:53:17 Oct 8th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

why you people belive that we  live in a desert , hello we live better than you do . and even if we live badly , saying the word of god is enough to make us happy , what things , we are not talking about anything .

those horses are the best in the world , and that horse cost 10,000 $

more than you do .00000000000000000000 rest 0000000000000000 rest 00000001 lera turki

 

1 million lera turki is 2 $  

come on , you typed one graph and then gone to bed , just as animals , no thinking , eat , drink from the nearest dump , have sex with the nearest female , just think be4 you write


23:01:14 Oct 8th 07 - Mr. Mushashi:

What has all of that to do with my post?


18:31:40 Oct 9th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

Mr. Mushashi

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10/8/2007 9:30:51 PMand again, it is not your religion ... it's the extreme factions of these religions that are attacked, not the normal people.   so, maybe you can come down from your high horses and try to understand what is said ...


OMG do you really belive that???? whatkindof ligic is that?
im shure the people in horishima wernt normal people why else would they get killed by the US They deserved to die normal people childern or even dogs dont buth the ones there wernt normal people.. they where something else..


18:36:12 Oct 9th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

im shure i woulnt be able to say this if those people woulnt be killed in a nuclear attack against a city. they would jsut be evil japanese presice killed couse that what happens in a WAR


18:52:11 Oct 9th 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:


18:55:14 Oct 9th 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:


20:19:33 Oct 9th 07 - Mr. Mushashi:

Ok then, so, all muslims are crazy bad people? they all support the extreme factions?   (i geuss most of those that post here must feel that way) none of them are capable of a decent train of thought? none of them can take criticism?

 


21:29:28 Oct 9th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

ok then all japanese are Evil? and cant take critisism..


21:37:17 Oct 9th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

lol :D im just beeing stuborn again arnt i i just want to piont out how you see things in black and white :p or atleast it seems like that :D


22:19:25 Oct 9th 07 - Mr. Verll:

*walks in*

*looks at all the people, and starts laughing*

*stops laughing for a second, but when he takes another look, he starts to laugh again, and can't stop*

"YOU ARE ALL SO EXTREMELY FUNNY!!!!!!"

*have to leave, or he would die from the laughing*


01:29:03 Oct 10th 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

"why you people belive that we  live in a desert "

Why you Muslims always believe in terrorism?  (Of course not all Muslim's believe in terrorism, similarly not all "us people" believe you live in a desert.  Be careful of generalization.)

"hello we live better than you do "

In what aspects?  According to whose opinion?

"come on , you typed one graph and then gone to bed , just as animals , no thinking , eat , drink from the nearest dump , have sex with the nearest female , just think be4 you write"

A bit of an excessive accusation, and mostly false.

"What has all of that to do with my post?"

I'm wondering the same.


07:24:41 Oct 10th 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:

Yeah! We don't have sex with the nearest female! Swifty has sex with the nearest male! See? You were wrong!


12:42:48 Oct 10th 07 - Mr. Goldsie:

Tiber GTFO!

Hey Peeps I'm back and ready for more of a moderately intelligent discussion

People all that is being said is just reiterations of what has already been said, I haven't seen a new point in this thread for a very long time, Alex is spitting out the same old nonsense and people are coming up with the stupidest points. Please put this thread out of its misery!


15:34:39 Oct 10th 07 - Mr. Xander Crews:

I'll say i didn't read all these post, 800 is way too many but let me put my 2 cents worth in anyway.

you cannot blame religion, or county for violence. it is the nature of all life on this planet to be violent. Earth is a violent world. predators kill other animals to eat, therefore dominance among species is determined largely by strength, even among the herbivores, who need to be strong to escape/fight off predators. and since strength is necessary to survive in the wild, dominence/mating rights is determined by fighting.

after millions of years of evolution on a world in which you must fight to survive, and fight to reproduce man has just gotten better at violence than other animals (i.e. the developement of weapons), and through that violence we have become the most dominate animal on earth. Today we dont need violence to survive as a species, but the instinct is bred deep into our cores. Though some people will never hit or kill someone, they are going against their instincts. for instance if someone insults you/angers you in some way, you want to hit them. that is sn example of our violent instinct, and that instinct is born of anger and rage

if you look at the history of man, it took millions of years between discoveries such as fire and primitive weapons. as we advance, our rate of advancement increases, and while scientific advances in the last 1500 years has advanced quickly (comparitively). it still takes hundreds of thousands if not millions of years to evolve the characteristics of a species. 

perhaps one day in the distant future we may breed violence out of our instincts, but i doubt it. in todays society, whatever country you live in or religion you follow, the majority of men and women wont rule out the possibility of reproduction based on the capacity of violence, therefore we arent "culling" it from our "herd"


17:48:28 Oct 10th 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

Funny thing is, here we all are, playing a war game :)  Violence isn't just an instinct, it's practically a culture.


19:31:35 Oct 10th 07 - Mr. Dragonorc:

hasnt this been locked yet!!!!!


19:39:19 Oct 10th 07 - Mr. Motherlicker:

nuke em all


22:02:43 Oct 10th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

well of all things talking about nature the problem is all the people that die or kill dont actually want that i mean who joins the military to kill people they do it for finantial reasons killing isnt in our nature greed is :P. and it must be controlled


22:05:04 Oct 10th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

ow and yes it could also be just culture


22:16:55 Oct 10th 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:

*Septim appears behind Dreadii and stabs him thirty times with his SPAM combat knife, he then knocks him over the head with a bat and burns Dreadii's body in a BBQ.

"It's my culture's fault!!!"


14:45:31 Oct 11th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

it is.
its also their fould you will be liveing food to my pitbulls.


14:50:28 Oct 11th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

seriously i find hte fact that children are supposed to play with Toy soldiers one of the sickerest things.

And they do become more like them. not just soldiers but also toys to the ones in power


17:00:44 Oct 11th 07 - Mr. Verll:

  This is a brilliant kid!!!!


20:37:18 Oct 11th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

 

you should go to politcal conversations , i mean woha , i never expected people of the west to be so , clumzy , just we hear you did and you invented . i mean

Sir Hephaestus

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10/10/2007 3:29:03 AM

"why you people belive that we  live in a desert "

Why you Muslims always believe in terrorism?  (Of course not all Muslim's believe in terrorism, similarly not all "us people" believe you live in a desert.  Be careful of generalization.)

"hello we live better than you do "

In what aspects?  According to whose opinion?

"come on , you typed one graph and then gone to bed , just as animals , no thinking , eat , drink from the nearest dump , have sex with the nearest female , just think be4 you write"

A bit of an excessive accusation, and mostly false.

"What has all of that to do with my post?"

I'm wondering the same.

 

1 non of true muslim belive in terorist , actually terorist a word you invented , as stupid will be your nick name from now on .

2 you as a normal worker will take 2000 $ in a month , living here will give you as normal like , 875$ . But the life here is kinda easy so the 875 $ buy things in palestine more than the 2000 $ in america

3 prove , what will you do after a year , what will you do tommorrow , what are you doing now , see , you have no life this is between yourself , don't give stupid answers as , oh i am typing now

4 now this is makin you so stupid , i wondered why you changed the subject and then you wondered why i asked why you changed the subject , was you ran out from the answers . septims , dont blame all cuz your being a G@Y


20:51:22 Oct 11th 07 - Mr. Verll:

I think someone stood up with the leg on the wrong side of the bed or something like that.....


(read that as an mad scientist who is also immature and childish and very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very nutso)


23:10:51 Oct 11th 07 - Mr. Mushashi:

i bet he just found out his alter ego was *beep* :-p   let's "stone him to death"!

also,  stupid this, stupid that, stupid all around, blablablabla, you're stupid, i mean wtf?,  i screw sheep daily, because they are less expensive than at your place, stupid this, stupid that, stupid all around, i mean? wtf? did i forget something? oh wait, you're stupid! (just in case anyone missed it ;-) )

very usefull, i'd say ... not? ;-)

try again Alexander-the-not-so-great.


23:47:35 Oct 11th 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:

*Septim stabs Dreadii again

"WHY AREN'T YOU DEAD YET!? DEAD PEOPLE CAN'T TALK!!!"


00:49:47 Oct 12th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

i only got a deal , i call you people stupid you call me terorist

i will make my version of musha*beep*alking

also,  

also,  terrorist this, terrorist that, terrorist all around, blablablabla, you're terrorist, i mean wtf?,  i screw sheep daily, because they are high expensive than at your place, terrorist this, terrorist that, terrorist all around, i mean? wtf? did i forget something? oh wait, you're terrorist! (just in case i didn't bothor you yet )

next era i will be saladin , so screw alexander . he was a shame on war leaders , a theif , always drunk , i want to call him terrorist .

okay ,

if i kill an ant , would i be a terrorist ? please sombody define this terrorist

but better not say

terrorist : every muslim .


00:53:17 Oct 12th 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:

Terrorism

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"International Terrorist Incidents, 2001" by the US Department of State
"International Terrorist Incidents, 2001" by the US Department of State

Terrorism in the modern sense[1] is violence or other harmful acts committed (or threatened) against civilians for political or other ideological goals.[2] Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror", are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or utterly disregard the safety of non-combatants. Many definitions also include only acts of unlawful violence.

As a form of unconventional warfare, terrorism is sometimes used when attempting to force political change by convincing a government or population to agree to demands to avoid future harm or fear of harm, destabilizing an existing government, motivating a disgruntled population to join an uprising, escalating a conflict in the hopes of disrupting the status quo, expressing a grievance, or drawing attention to a cause.

Terrorism has been used by a broad array of political organizations in furthering their objectives; both right-wing and left-wing political parties, nationalistic, and religious groups, revolutionaries and ruling governments.[3] The presence of non-state actors in widespread armed conflict has created controversy regarding the application of the laws of war.

An International Round Table on Constructing Peace, Deconstructing Terror (2004) hosted by Strategic Foresight Group recommended that a distinction should be made between terrorism and acts of terror. While acts of terror are criminal acts as per the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1373 and domestic jurisprudence of almost all countries in the world, terrorism refers to a phenomenon including the actual acts, the perpetrators of acts of terror themselves and their motives. There is disagreement on definitions of terrorism. However, there is an intellectual consensus globally, that acts of terror should not be accepted under any circumstances. This is reflected in all important conventions including the United Nations counter terrorism strategy, the decisions of the Madrid Conference on terrorism, the Strategic Foresight Group and ALDE Round Tables at the European Parliament.

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Official definitions

See also: State terrorism

The word "terrorism" was first used in reference to the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution. A 1988 study by the United States Army found that more than one hundred definitions of the word exist and have been used.[4] In many countries, acts of terrorism are legally distinguished from criminal acts done for other purposes, and "terrorism" is defined by statute; see definition of terrorism for particular definitions. Common principles among legal definitions of terrorism provide an emerging consensus as to meaning and also foster cooperation between law enforcement personnel in different countries. Among these definitions there are several that do not recognize the possibility of legitimate use of violence by civilians against an invader in an occupied country and would, thus label all resistance movements as terrorist groups. Others make a distinction between lawful and unlawful use of violence. Ultimately, the distinction is a political judgment.[5]

In November 2004, a United Nations Security Council report described terrorism as any act "intended to cause death or serious bodily harm to civilians or non-combatants with the purpose of intimidating a population or compelling a government or an international organization to do or abstain from doing any act." (Note that this report does not constitute international law.)[6]

Key criteria

Smoke billowing from the World Trade Center after the September 11, 2001 attacks described by the United Nations Security Council as "horrifying terrorist attacks."
Smoke billowing from the World Trade Center after the September 11, 2001 attacks described by the United Nations Security Council as "horrifying terrorist attacks."

Official definitions determine counter-terrorism policy and are often developed to serve it. Most government definitions outline the following key criteria: target, objective, motive, perpetrator, and legitimacy or legality of the act. Terrorism is also often recognizable by a following statement from the perpetrators.

Violence – According to Walter Laqueur of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, "the only general characteristic of terrorism generally agreed upon is that terrorism involves violence and the threat of violence." However, the criterion of violence alone does not produce a useful definition, as it includes many acts not usually considered terrorism: war, riot, organized crime, or even a simple assault. Property destruction that does not endanger life is not usually considered a violent crime, but some have described property destruction by the Earth Liberation Front and Animal Liberation Front as violence and terrorism; see eco-terrorism.

Psychological impact and fear – The attack was carried out in such a way as to maximize the severity and length of the psychological impact. Each act of terrorism is a “performance,” a product of internal logic, devised to have an impact on many large audiences. Terrorists also attack national symbols to show their power and to shake the foundation of the country or society they are opposed to. This may negatively affect a government's legitimacy, while increasing the legitimacy of the given terrorist organization and/or ideology behind a terrorist act.[7]

Perpetrated for a Political Goal – Something all terrorist attacks have in common is their perpetration for a political purpose. Terrorism is a political tactic, not unlike letter writing or protesting, that is used by activists when they believe no other means will effect the kind of change they desire. The change is desired so badly that failure is seen as a worse outcome than the deaths of civilians. This is often where the interrelationship between terrorism and religion occurs. When a political struggle is integrated into the framework of a religious or "cosmic"[8] struggle, such as over the control of an ancestral homeland or holy site such as Israel and Jerusalem, failing in the political goal (nationalism) becomes equated with spiritual failure, which, for the highly committed, is worse than their own death or the deaths of innocent civilians.

Deliberate targeting of non-combatants – It is commonly held that the distinctive nature of terrorism lies in its intentional and specific selection of civilians as direct targets. Much of the time, the victims of terrorism are targeted not because they are threats, but because they are specific "symbols, tools, animals or corrupt beings" that tie into a specific view of the world that the terrorist possess. Their suffering accomplishes the terrorists' goals of instilling fear, getting a message out to an audience, or otherwise accomplishing their political end.[9]

Unlawfulness or illegitimacy – Some official (notably government) definitions of terrorism add a criterion of illegitimacy or unlawfulness[10] to distinguish between actions authorized by a "legitimate" government (and thus "lawful") and those of other actors, including individuals and small groups. Using this criterion, actions that would otherwise qualify as terrorism would not be considered terrorism if they were government sanctioned. For example, firebombing a city, which is designed to affect civilian support for a cause, would not be considered terrorism if it were authorized by a "legitimate" government. This criterion is inherently problematic and is not universally accepted, because: it denies the existence of state terrorism; the same act may or may not be classed as terrorism depending on whether its sponsorship is traced to a "legitimate" government; "legitimacy" and "lawfulness" are subjective, depending on the perspective of one government or another; and it diverges from the historically accepted meaning and origin of the term.[11][12][13][14] For these reasons this criterion is not universally accepted. Most dictionary definitions of the term do not include this criterion.

Pejorative use

The terms "terrorism" and "terrorist" (someone who engages in terrorism) carry a strong negative connotation. These terms are often used as political labels to condemn violence or threat of violence by certain actors as immoral, indiscriminate, or unjustified. Those labeled "terrorists" rarely identify themselves as such, and typically use other euphemistic terms or terms specific to their situation, such as: separatist, freedom fighter, liberator, revolutionary, vigilante, militant, paramilitary, guerrilla, rebel, jihadi or mujaheddin, or fedayeen, or any similar-meaning word in other languages.

In his book "Inside Terrorism" Bruce Hoffman wrote in Chapter One: Defining Terrorism that

On one point, at least, everyone agrees: terrorism is a pejorative term. It is a word with intrinsically negative connotations that is generally applied to one's enemies and opponents, or to those with whom one disagrees and would otherwise prefer to ignore. 'What is called terrorism,' Brian Jenkins has written, `'thus seems to depend on one's point of view. Use of the term implies a moral judgment; and if one party can successfully attach the label terrorist to its opponent, then it has indirectly persuaded others to adopt its moral viewpoint.' Hence the decision to call someone or label some organization `terrorist' becomes almost unavoidably subjective, depending largely on whether one sympathizes with or opposes the person/group/cause concerned. If one identifies with the victim of the violence, for example, then the act is terrorism. If, however, one identifies with the perpetrator, the violent act is regarded in a more sympathetic, if not positive (or, at the worst, an ambivalent) light; and it is not terrorism.[15]

The difference between the words "terrorist" or "terrorism" and the terms above can be summed up by the aphorism, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." This is exemplified when a group that uses irregular military methods is an ally of a State against a mutual enemy, but later falls out with the State and starts to use the same methods against its former ally. During World War II the Malayan People’s Anti-Japanese Army was allied with the British, but during the Malayan Emergency, members of its successor, the Malayan Races Liberation Army, were branded terrorists by the British.[16][17] More recently, Ronald Reagan and others in the American administration frequently called the Afghan Mujahideen freedom fighters during their war against the Soviet Union,[18] yet twenty years later when a new generation of Afghan men are fighting against what they perceive to be a regime installed by foreign powers, their attacks are labelled terrorism by George W. Bush.[19][20] Groups accused of terrorism usually prefer terms that reflect legitimate military or ideological action.[21][22][23] Leading terrorism researcher Professor Martin Rudner, director of the Canadian Centre of Intelligence and Security Studies at Ottawa's Carleton University, defines "terrorist acts" as attacks against civilians for political or other ideological goals, and goes on to say:

"There is the famous statement: 'One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.' But that is grossly misleading. It assesses the validity of the cause when terrorism is an act. One can have a perfectly beautiful cause and yet if one commits terrorist acts, it is terrorism regardless."[24]

Some groups, when involved in a "liberation" struggle, have been called terrorist by the Western governments or media. Later, these same persons, as leaders of the liberated nations, are called statesmen by similar organizations. Two examples are Nobel Peace Prize laureates Menachem Begin and Nelson Mandela.[25][26][27][28][29][30][31]

Sometimes states that are close allies, for reasons of history, culture and politics, can disagree over whether members of a certain organization are terrorists. For example for many years some branches of the United States government refused to label members of the Irish Republican Army (IRA) as terrorists, while it was using methods against one of the United States' closest allies (Britain) that Britain branded as terrorist attacks. This was highlighted by the Quinn v. Robinson case.[32][33]

Many times the term "terrorism" and "extremism" are interchangeably used. However, there is a significant difference between the two. Terrorism essentially threat or act of physical violence. Extremism involves using non-physical instruments to mobilise minds to achieve political or ideological ends. For instance, Al Qaeda is involved in terrorism. The Iranian revolution of 1979 is a case of extremism. A global research report An Inclusive World (2007) asserts that extremism poses a more serious threat than terrorism in the decades to come.

For these and other reasons, media outlets wishing to preserve a reputation for impartiality are extremely careful in their use of the term.[34][35]

Types of terrorism

In the spring of 1975, the Law Enforcement Assistant Administration in the United States formed the National Advisory Committee on Criminal Justice Standards and Goals. One of the five volumes that the committee was entitled Disorders and Terrorism, produced by the Task Force on Disorders and Terrorism under the direction H.H.A. Cooper, Director of the Task Force staff.[36] The Task Force classified terrorism into six categories.

  • Civil Disorders – A form of collective violence interfering with the peace, security, and normal functioning of the community.
  • Political TerrorismViolent criminal behaviour designed primarily to generate fear in the community, or substantial segment of it, for political purposes.
  • Non-Political Terrorism – Terrorism that is not aimed at political purposes but which exhibits “conscious design to create and maintain high degree of fear for coercive purposes, but the end is individual or collective gain rather than the achievement of a political objective.”
  • Quasi-Terrorism – The activities incidental to the commission of crimes of violence that are similar in form and method to genuine terrorism but which nevertheless lack its essential ingredient. It is not the main purpose of the quasi-terrorists to induce terror in the immediate victim as in the case of genuine terrorism, but the quasi-terrorist uses the modalities and techniques of the genuine terrorist and produces similar consequences and reaction. For example, the fleeing felon who takes hostages is a quasi-terrorist, whose methods are similar to those of the genuine terrorist but whose purposes are quite different.
  • Limited Political Terrorism – Genuine political terrorism is characterized by a revolutionary approach; limited political terrorism refers to “acts of terrorism which are committed for ideological or political motives but which are not part of a concerted campaign to capture control of the State.
  • Official or State Terrorism – referring to nations whose rule is based upon fear and oppression that reach similar to terrorism or such proportions.”

In an analysis prepared for U.S. Intelligence[37] four typologies are mentioned.

  • Nationalist-Separatist
  • Religious Fundamentalist
  • New Religious and
  • Social Revolutionary

Democracy and domestic terrorism

The relationship between domestic terrorism and democracy is complex. Research shows that such terrorism is most common in nations with intermediate political freedom and that the nations with the least terrorism are the most democratic nations.[38][39][40][41] However, one study suggests that suicide terrorism may be an exception to this general rule. Evidence regarding this particular method of terrorism reveals that every modern suicide campaign has targeted a democracy- a state with a considerable degree of political freedom. The study suggests that concessions awarded to terrorists during the 80s and 90s for suicide attacks increased their frequency.[42]

Some examples of "terrorism" in non-democracies include ETA in Spain under Francisco Franco, the Shining Path in Peru under Alberto Fujimori, the Kurdistan Workers Party when Turkey was ruled by military leaders and the ANC in South Africa. Democracies such as the United States, Israel, and the Philippines also have experienced domestic terrorism.

While a democratic nation espousing civil liberties may claim a sense of higher moral ground than other regimes, an act of terrorism within such a state may cause a perceived dilemma: whether to maintain its civil liberties and thus risk being perceived as ineffective in dealing with the problem; or alternatively to restrict its civil liberties and thus risk delegitimizing its claim of supporting civil liberties. This dilemma, some social theorists would conclude, may very well play into the initial plans of the acting terrorist(s); namely, to delegitimize the state.[43]

Perpetrators

Acts of terrorism can be carried out by individuals, groups, or states. According to some definitions, clandestine or semi-clandestine state actors may also carry out terrorist acts outside the framework of a state of war. However, the most common image of terrorism is that it is carried out by small and secretive cells, highly motivated to serve a particular cause and many of the most deadly operations in recent times, such as 9/11, the London underground bombing, and the 2002 Bali bombing were planned and carried out by a close clique, comprised of close friends, family members and other strong social networks. These groups benefited from the free flow of information and efficient Telecommunications to succeed where others had failed. [44] Over the years, many people have attempted to come up with a terrorist profile to attempt to explain these individuals' actions through their psychology and social circumstances. Others, like Roderick Hindery, have sought to discern profiles in the propaganda tactics used by terrorists.

Terrorist groups

State sponsors

See also: State terrorism and False flag

A state can sponsor terrorism by funding a terrorist organization, harboring terrorism, and also using state resources, such as the military, to directly perform acts of terrorism. Opinions as to which acts of violence by states consist of state-sponsored terrorism or not vary widely. When states provide funding for groups considered by some to be terrorist, they rarely acknowledge them as such.

Tactics

Main article: Tactics of terrorism

Terrorism is a form of asymmetric warfare, and is more common when direct conventional warfare either cannot be (due to differentials in available forces) or is not being used to resolve the underlying conflict.

The context in which terrorist tactics are used is often a large-scale, unresolved political conflict. The type of conflict varies widely; historical examples include:

  • Secession of a territory to form a new sovereign state
  • Dominance of territory or resources by various ethnic groups
  • Imposition of a particular form of government, such as democracy, theocracy, or anarchy
  • Economic deprivation of a population
  • Opposition to a domestic government or occupying army

Terrorist attacks are often targeted to maximize fear and publicity. They usually use explosives or poison, but there is also concern about terrorist attacks using weapons of mass destruction. Terrorist organizations usually methodically plan attacks in advance, and may train participants, plant "undercover" agents, and raise money from supporters or through organized crime. Communication may occur through modern telecommunications, or through old-fashioned methods such as couriers.

Causes

Many opinions exist concerning the causes of terrorism. [45][46] They range from demographic to socioeconomic to political factors. Demographic factors may include congestion and high growth rates. Socioeconomic factors may include poverty, unemployment, and land tenure problems. Political factors may include disenfranchisement, ethnic conflict, religious conflict, territorial conflict, access to resources, or even revenge.

Factors that May Contribute to Terrorism

In some cases, the rationale for a terrorist attack may be uncertain (as in the many attacks for which no group or individual claims responsibility) or unrelated to any large-scale social conflict (such as the Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway by Aum Shinrikyo).

A global research report An Inclusive World prepared by an international team of researchers from all continents has analysed causes of present day terrorism. It has reached the conclusions that terrorism all over the world functions like an economic market. There is demand for terrorists placed by greed or grievances. Supply is driven by relative deprivation resulting in triple deficits - developmental deficit, democratic deficit and dignity deficit. Acts of terror take place at the point of intersection between supply and demand. Those placing the demand use religion and other denominators as vehicles to establish links with those on the supply side. This pattern can be observed in all situations ranging from Colombia to Colombo and the Philippines to the Palestine.

Responses to terrorism

Responses to terrorism are broad in scope. They can include re-alignments of the political spectrum and reassessments of fundamental values. The term counter-terrorism has a narrower connotation, implying that it is directed at terrorist actors.

Specific types of responses include:

  • Targeted laws, criminal procedures, deportations, and enhanced police powers
  • Target hardening, such as locking doors or adding traffic barriers
  • Pre-emptive or reactive military action
  • Increased intelligence and surveillance activities
  • Pre-emptive humanitarian activities
  • More permissive interrogation and detention policies
  • Official acceptance of torture as a valid tool

Mass media

Media exposure may be a primary goal of those carrying out terrorism, to expose issues that would otherwise be ignored by the media. Some consider this to be manipulation and exploitation of the media.[47] Others consider terrorism itself to be a symptom of a highly controlled mass media, which does not otherwise give voice to alternative viewpoints, a view expressed by Paul Watson who has stated that controlled media is responsible for terrorism, because "you cannot get your information across any other way". Paul Watson's organization Sea Shepherd has itself been branded "eco-terrorist", although it claims to have not caused any casualties.

The mass media will often censor organizations involved in terrorism (through self-restraint or regulation) to discourage further terrorism. However, this may encourage organisations to perform more extreme acts of terrorism to be shown in the mass media.

There is always a point at which the terrorist ceases to manipulate the media gestalt. A point at which the violence may well escalate, but beyond which the terrorist has become symptomatic of the media gestalt itself. Terrorism as we ordinarily understand it is innately media-related.

—Novelist William Gibson[48]

The Weather Underground was a militant US organization which, while causing no casualties, performed terrorist acts to bring media attention to various world political issues. Many of the issues were given brief mentions by news services only in relation to the terrorist acts.

History

Main article: History of terrorism

The modern English term "terrorism" dates back to 1795 when it was used to describe the actions of the Jacobin Club in their rule of post-Revolutionary France, the so-called "Reign of Terror".

 

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"International Terrorist Incidents, 2001" by the US Department of State
"International Terrorist Incidents, 2001" by the US Department of State

Terrorism in the modern sense[1] is violence or other harmful acts committed (or threatened) against civilians for political or other ideological goals.[2] Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror", are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or utterly disregard the safety of non-combatants. Many definitions also include only acts of unlawful violence.

As a form of unconventional warfare, terrorism is sometimes used when attempting to force political change by convincing a government or population to agree to demands to avoid future harm or fear of harm, destabilizing an existing government, motivating a disgruntled population to join an uprising, escalating a conflict in the hopes of disrupting the status quo, expressing a grievance, or drawing attention to a cause.

Terrorism has been used by a broad array of political organizations in furthering their objectives; both right-wing and left-wing political parties, nationalistic, and religious groups, revolutionaries and ruling governments.[3] The presence of non-state actors in widespread armed conflict has created controversy regarding the application of the laws of war.

An International Round Table on Constructing Peace, Deconstructing Terror (2004) hosted by Strategic Foresight Group recommended that a distinction should be made between terrorism and acts of terror. While acts of terror are criminal acts as per the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1373 and domestic jurisprudence of almost all countries in the world, terrorism refers to a phenomenon including the actual acts, the perpetrators of acts of terror themselves and their motives. There is disagreement on definitions of terrorism. However, there is an intellectual consensus globally, that acts of terror should not be accepted under any circumstances. This is reflected in all important conventions including the United Nations counter terrorism strategy, the decisions of the Madrid Conference on terrorism, the Strategic Foresight Group and ALDE Round Tables at the European Parliament.

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Official definitions

See also: State terrorism

The word "terrorism" was first used in reference to the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution. A 1988 study by the United States Army found that more than one hundred definitions of the word exist and have been used.[4] In many countries, acts of terrorism are legally distinguished from criminal acts done for other purposes, and "terrorism" is defined by statute; see definition of terrorism for particular definitions. Common principles among legal definitions of terrorism provide an emerging consensus as to meaning and also foster cooperation between law enforcement personnel in different countries. Among these definitions there are several that do not recognize the possibility of legitimate use of violence by civilians against an invader in an occupied country and would, thus label all resistance movements as terrorist groups. Others make a distinction between lawful and unlawful use of violence. Ultimately, the distinction is a political judgment.[5]

In November 2004, a United Nations Security Council report described terrorism as any act "intended to cause death or serious bodily harm to civilians or non-combatants with the purpose of intimidating a population or compelling a government or an international organization to do or abstain from doing any act." (Note that this report does not constitute international law.)[6]

Key criteria

Smoke billowing from the World Trade Center after the September 11, 2001 attacks described by the United Nations Security Council as "horrifying terrorist attacks."
Smoke billowing from the World Trade Center after the September 11, 2001 attacks described by the United Nations Security Council as "horrifying terrorist attacks."

Official definitions determine counter-terrorism policy and are often developed to serve it. Most government definitions outline the following key criteria: target, objective, motive, perpetrator, and legitimacy or legality of the act. Terrorism is also often recognizable by a following statement from the perpetrators.

Violence – According to Walter Laqueur of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, "the only general characteristic of terrorism generally agreed upon is that terrorism involves violence and the threat of violence." However, the criterion of violence alone does not produce a useful definition, as it includes many acts not usually considered terrorism: war, riot, organized crime, or even a simple assault. Property destruction that does not endanger life is not usually considered a violent crime, but some have described property destruction by the Earth Liberation Front and Animal Liberation Front as violence and terrorism; see eco-terrorism.

Psychological impact and fear – The attack was carried out in such a way as to maximize the severity and length of the psychological impact. Each act of terrorism is a “performance,” a product of internal logic, devised to have an impact on many large audiences. Terrorists also attack national symbols to show their power and to shake the foundation of the country or society they are opposed to. This may negatively affect a government's legitimacy, while increasing the legitimacy of the given terrorist organization and/or ideology behind a terrorist act.[7]

Perpetrated for a Political Goal – Something all terrorist attacks have in common is their perpetration for a political purpose. Terrorism is a political tactic, not unlike letter writing or protesting, that is used by activists when they believe no other means will effect the kind of change they desire. The change is desired so badly that failure is seen as a worse outcome than the deaths of civilians. This is often where the interrelationship between terrorism and religion occurs. When a political struggle is integrated into the framework of a religious or "cosmic"[8] struggle, such as over the control of an ancestral homeland or holy site such as Israel and Jerusalem, failing in the political goal (nationalism) becomes equated with spiritual failure, which, for the highly committed, is worse than their own death or the deaths of innocent civilians.

Deliberate targeting of non-combatants – It is commonly held that the distinctive nature of terrorism lies in its intentional and specific selection of civilians as direct targets. Much of the time, the victims of terrorism are targeted not because they are threats, but because they are specific "symbols, tools, animals or corrupt beings" that tie into a specific view of the world that the terrorist possess. Their suffering accomplishes the terrorists' goals of instilling fear, getting a message out to an audience, or otherwise accomplishing their political end.[9]

Unlawfulness or illegitimacy – Some official (notably government) definitions of terrorism add a criterion of illegitimacy or unlawfulness[10] to distinguish between actions authorized by a "legitimate" government (and thus "lawful") and those of other actors, including individuals and small groups. Using this criterion, actions that would otherwise qualify as terrorism would not be considered terrorism if they were government sanctioned. For example, firebombing a city, which is designed to affect civilian support for a cause, would not be considered terrorism if it were authorized by a "legitimate" government. This criterion is inherently problematic and is not universally accepted, because: it denies the existence of state terrorism; the same act may or may not be classed as terrorism depending on whether its sponsorship is traced to a "legitimate" government; "legitimacy" and "lawfulness" are subjective, depending on the perspective of one government or another; and it diverges from the historically accepted meaning and origin of the term.[11][12][13][14] For these reasons this criterion is not universally accepted. Most dictionary definitions of the term do not include this criterion.

Pejorative use

The terms "terrorism" and "terrorist" (someone who engages in terrorism) carry a strong negative connotation. These terms are often used as political labels to condemn violence or threat of violence by certain actors as immoral, indiscriminate, or unjustified. Those labeled "terrorists" rarely identify themselves as such, and typically use other euphemistic terms or terms specific to their situation, such as: separatist, freedom fighter, liberator, revolutionary, vigilante, militant, paramilitary, guerrilla, rebel, jihadi or mujaheddin, or fedayeen, or any similar-meaning word in other languages.

In his book "Inside Terrorism" Bruce Hoffman wrote in Chapter One: Defining Terrorism that

On one point, at least, everyone agrees: terrorism is a pejorative term. It is a word with intrinsically negative connotations that is generally applied to one's enemies and opponents, or to those with whom one disagrees and would otherwise prefer to ignore. 'What is called terrorism,' Brian Jenkins has written, `'thus seems to depend on one's point of view. Use of the term implies a moral judgment; and if one party can successfully attach the label terrorist to its opponent, then it has indirectly persuaded others to adopt its moral viewpoint.' Hence the decision to call someone or label some organization `terrorist' becomes almost unavoidably subjective, depending largely on whether one sympathizes with or opposes the person/group/cause concerned. If one identifies with the victim of the violence, for example, then the act is terrorism. If, however, one identifies with the perpetrator, the violent act is regarded in a more sympathetic, if not positive (or, at the worst, an ambivalent) light; and it is not terrorism.[15]

The difference between the words "terrorist" or "terrorism" and the terms above can be summed up by the aphorism, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." This is exemplified when a group that uses irregular military methods is an ally of a State against a mutual enemy, but later falls out with the State and starts to use the same methods against its former ally. During World War II the Malayan People’s Anti-Japanese Army was allied with the British, but during the Malayan Emergency, members of its successor, the Malayan Races Liberation Army, were branded terrorists by the British.[16][17] More recently, Ronald Reagan and others in the American administration frequently called the Afghan Mujahideen freedom fighters during their war against the Soviet Union,[18] yet twenty years later when a new generation of Afghan men are fighting against what they perceive to be a regime installed by foreign powers, their attacks are labelled terrorism by George W. Bush.[19][20] Groups accused of terrorism usually prefer terms that reflect legitimate military or ideological action.[21][22][23] Leading terrorism researcher Professor Martin Rudner, director of the Canadian Centre of Intelligence and Security Studies at Ottawa's Carleton University, defines "terrorist acts" as attacks against civilians for political or other ideological goals, and goes on to say:

"There is the famous statement: 'One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.' But that is grossly misleading. It assesses the validity of the cause when terrorism is an act. One can have a perfectly beautiful cause and yet if one commits terrorist acts, it is terrorism regardless."[24]

Some groups, when involved in a "liberation" struggle, have been called terrorist by the Western governments or media. Later, these same persons, as leaders of the liberated nations, are called statesmen by similar organizations. Two examples are Nobel Peace Prize laureates Menachem Begin and Nelson Mandela.[25][26][27][28][29][30][31]

Sometimes states that are close allies, for reasons of history, culture and politics, can disagree over whether members of a certain organization are terrorists. For example for many years some branches of the United States government refused to label members of the Irish Republican Army (IRA) as terrorists, while it was using methods against one of the United States' closest allies (Britain) that Britain branded as terrorist attacks. This was highlighted by the Quinn v. Robinson case.[32][33]

Many times the term "terrorism" and "extremism" are interchangeably used. However, there is a significant difference between the two. Terrorism essentially threat or act of physical violence. Extremism involves using non-physical instruments to mobilise minds to achieve political or ideological ends. For instance, Al Qaeda is involved in terrorism. The Iranian revolution of 1979 is a case of extremism. A global research report An Inclusive World (2007) asserts that extremism poses a more serious threat than terrorism in the decades to come.

For these and other reasons, media outlets wishing to preserve a reputation for impartiality are extremely careful in their use of the term.[34][35]

Types of terrorism

In the spring of 1975, the Law Enforcement Assistant Administration in the United States formed the National Advisory Committee on Criminal Justice Standards and Goals. One of the five volumes that the committee was entitled Disorders and Terrorism, produced by the Task Force on Disorders and Terrorism under the direction H.H.A. Cooper, Director of the Task Force staff.[36] The Task Force classified terrorism into six categories.

  • Civil Disorders – A form of collective violence interfering with the peace, security, and normal functioning of the community.
  • Political TerrorismViolent criminal behaviour designed primarily to generate fear in the community, or substantial segment of it, for political purposes.
  • Non-Political Terrorism – Terrorism that is not aimed at political purposes but which exhibits “conscious design to create and maintain high degree of fear for coercive purposes, but the end is individual or collective gain rather than the achievement of a political objective.”
  • Quasi-Terrorism – The activities incidental to the commission of crimes of violence that are similar in form and method to genuine terrorism but which nevertheless lack its essential ingredient. It is not the main purpose of the quasi-terrorists to induce terror in the immediate victim as in the case of genuine terrorism, but the quasi-terrorist uses the modalities and techniques of the genuine terrorist and produces similar consequences and reaction. For example, the fleeing felon who takes hostages is a quasi-terrorist, whose methods are similar to those of the genuine terrorist but whose purposes are quite different.
  • Limited Political Terrorism – Genuine political terrorism is characterized by a revolutionary approach; limited political terrorism refers to “acts of terrorism which are committed for ideological or political motives but which are not part of a concerted campaign to capture control of the State.
  • Official or State Terrorism – referring to nations whose rule is based upon fear and oppression that reach similar to terrorism or such proportions.”

In an analysis prepared for U.S. Intelligence[37] four typologies are mentioned.

  • Nationalist-Separatist
  • Religious Fundamentalist
  • New Religious and
  • Social Revolutionary

Democracy and domestic terrorism

The relationship between domestic terrorism and democracy is complex. Research shows that such terrorism is most common in nations with intermediate political freedom and that the nations with the least terrorism are the most democratic nations.[38][39][40][41] However, one study suggests that suicide terrorism may be an exception to this general rule. Evidence regarding this particular method of terrorism reveals that every modern suicide campaign has targeted a democracy- a state with a considerable degree of political freedom. The study suggests that concessions awarded to terrorists during the 80s and 90s for suicide attacks increased their frequency.[42]

Some examples of "terrorism" in non-democracies include ETA in Spain under Francisco Franco, the Shining Path in Peru under Alberto Fujimori, the Kurdistan Workers Party when Turkey was ruled by military leaders and the ANC in South Africa. Democracies such as the United States, Israel, and the Philippines also have experienced domestic terrorism.

While a democratic nation espousing civil liberties may claim a sense of higher moral ground than other regimes, an act of terrorism within such a state may cause a perceived dilemma: whether to maintain its civil liberties and thus risk being perceived as ineffective in dealing with the problem; or alternatively to restrict its civil liberties and thus risk delegitimizing its claim of supporting civil liberties. This dilemma, some social theorists would conclude, may very well play into the initial plans of the acting terrorist(s); namely, to delegitimize the state.[43]

Perpetrators

Acts of terrorism can be carried out by individuals, groups, or states. According to some definitions, clandestine or semi-clandestine state actors may also carry out terrorist acts outside the framework of a state of war. However, the most common image of terrorism is that it is carried out by small and secretive cells, highly motivated to serve a particular cause and many of the most deadly operations in recent times, such as 9/11, the London underground bombing, and the 2002 Bali bombing were planned and carried out by a close clique, comprised of close friends, family members and other strong social networks. These groups benefited from the free flow of information and efficient Telecommunications to succeed where others had failed. [44] Over the years, many people have attempted to come up with a terrorist profile to attempt to explain these individuals' actions through their psychology and social circumstances. Others, like Roderick Hindery, have sought to discern profiles in the propaganda tactics used by terrorists.

Terrorist groups

State sponsors

See also: State terrorism and False flag

A state can sponsor terrorism by funding a terrorist organization, harboring terrorism, and also using state resources, such as the military, to directly perform acts of terrorism. Opinions as to which acts of violence by states consist of state-sponsored terrorism or not vary widely. When states provide funding for groups considered by some to be terrorist, they rarely acknowledge them as such.

Tactics

Main article: Tactics of terrorism

Terrorism is a form of asymmetric warfare, and is more common when direct conventional warfare either cannot be (due to differentials in available forces) or is not being used to resolve the underlying conflict.

The context in which terrorist tactics are used is often a large-scale, unresolved political conflict. The type of conflict varies widely; historical examples include:

  • Secession of a territory to form a new sovereign state
  • Dominance of territory or resources by various ethnic groups
  • Imposition of a particular form of government, such as democracy, theocracy, or anarchy
  • Economic deprivation of a population
  • Opposition to a domestic government or occupying army

Terrorist attacks are often targeted to maximize fear and publicity. They usually use explosives or poison, but there is also concern about terrorist attacks using weapons of mass destruction. Terrorist organizations usually methodically plan attacks in advance, and may train participants, plant "undercover" agents, and raise money from supporters or through organized crime. Communication may occur through modern telecommunications, or through old-fashioned methods such as couriers.

Causes

Many opinions exist concerning the causes of terrorism. [45][46] They range from demographic to socioeconomic to political factors. Demographic factors may include congestion and high growth rates. Socioeconomic factors may include poverty, unemployment, and land tenure problems. Political factors may include disenfranchisement, ethnic conflict, religious conflict, territorial conflict, access to resources, or even revenge.

Factors that May Contribute to Terrorism

In some cases, the rationale for a terrorist attack may be uncertain (as in the many attacks for which no group or individual claims responsibility) or unrelated to any large-scale social conflict (such as the Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway by Aum Shinrikyo).

A global research report An Inclusive World prepared by an international team of researchers from all continents has analysed causes of present day terrorism. It has reached the conclusions that terrorism all over the world functions like an economic market. There is demand for terrorists placed by greed or grievances. Supply is driven by relative deprivation resulting in triple deficits - developmental deficit, democratic deficit and dignity deficit. Acts of terror take place at the point of intersection between supply and demand. Those placing the demand use religion and other denominators as vehicles to establish links with those on the supply side. This pattern can be observed in all situations ranging from Colombia to Colombo and the Philippines to the Palestine.

Responses to terrorism

Responses to terrorism are broad in scope. They can include re-alignments of the political spectrum and reassessments of fundamental values. The term counter-terrorism has a narrower connotation, implying that it is directed at terrorist actors.

Specific types of responses include:

  • Targeted laws, criminal procedures, deportations, and enhanced police powers
  • Target hardening, such as locking doors or adding traffic barriers
  • Pre-emptive or reactive military action
  • Increased intelligence and surveillance activities
  • Pre-emptive humanitarian activities
  • More permissive interrogation and detention policies
  • Official acceptance of torture as a valid tool

Mass media

Media exposure may be a primary goal of those carrying out terrorism, to expose issues that would otherwise be ignored by the media. Some consider this to be manipulation and exploitation of the media.[47] Others consider terrorism itself to be a symptom of a highly controlled mass media, which does not otherwise give voice to alternative viewpoints, a view expressed by Paul Watson who has stated that controlled media is responsible for terrorism, because "you cannot get your information across any other way". Paul Watson's organization Sea Shepherd has itself been branded "eco-terrorist", although it claims to have not caused any casualties.

The mass media will often censor organizations involved in terrorism (through self-restraint or regulation) to discourage further terrorism. However, this may encourage organisations to perform more extreme acts of terrorism to be shown in the mass media.

There is always a point at which the terrorist ceases to manipulate the media gestalt. A point at which the violence may well escalate, but beyond which the terrorist has become symptomatic of the media gestalt itself. Terrorism as we ordinarily understand it is innately media-related.

—Novelist William Gibson[48]

The Weather Underground was a militant US organization which, while causing no casualties, performed terrorist acts to bring media attention to various world political issues. Many of the issues were given brief mentions by news services only in relation to the terrorist acts.

History

Main article: History of terrorism

The modern English term "terrorism" dates back to 1795 when it was used to describe the actions of the Jacobin Club in their rule of post-Revolutionary France, the so-called "Reign of Terror".

 

I defined


00:55:04 Oct 12th 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:

Wow, it double posted!!!


00:59:57 Oct 12th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

ty but you could put the URL , lol

not enough  definsion , not even right

and when you have the double post , don't write a comment on yourself , you can edite it amd write , any other needs ??


01:04:30 Oct 12th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

can sombody answer

ASAP means as speed as .........

i know it means hurry ,

and atm what do it means

at the minute maybe


04:58:33 Oct 12th 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:

Mr. Alexander The Great

Report


10/11/2007 4:59:57 PM

ty but you could put the URL , lol

not enough  definsion , not even right

and when you have the double post , don't write a comment on yourself , you can edite it amd write , any other needs ??

 

I tried, but it wouldn't let me due to the size of the post...or something like that...must've been the links...


05:10:36 Oct 12th 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

1 non of true muslim belive in terorist , actually terorist a word you invented , as stupid will be your nick name from now on .

1:  You are flaming because you don't know how to debate.  America did not invent "terrorism."  Terrorism is a concept that has existed for thousands of years.

2 you as a normal worker will take 2000 $ in a month , living here will give you as normal like , 875$ . But the life here is kinda easy so the 875 $ buy things in palestine more than the 2000 $ in america

$24,000 is a very low annual income for an American, fyi.  And when I speak of standard of living, I do not speak merely of how much money can buy.  Incorporate security, freedom, medical care, education, etc into the equation.

3 prove , what will you do after a year , what will you do tommorrow , what are you doing now , see , you have no life this is between yourself , don't give stupid answers as , oh i am typing now

Try rephrasing this so it makes more sense.  If you are saying I have no life, you are returning to flaming.

4 now this is makin you so stupid , i wondered why you changed the subject and then you wondered why i asked why you changed the subject , was you ran out from the answers . septims , dont blame all cuz your being a G@Y

Again, flaming.  An overwhelming majority of your questions are answered, you just don't seem to accept them.

"i only got a deal , i call you people stupid you call me terorist "

I don't call you a terrorist.  Yet you call me stupid.

"but better not say

terrorist : every muslim ."

We don't.


14:52:17 Oct 12th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

Deliberate targeting of non-combatants – It is commonly held that the distinctive nature of terrorism lies in its intentional and specific selection of civilians as direct targets.

tell me how many american civilians are even in iraq.
or does iraq have anything to do with 9/11.
i cant tell you the US military Al quada and the ones who support them intentionally insite secterian violance so that the powers maintain controll over the area(most importantly oil fields)

Basicly they kill people with the goal that more people get involved in the killing between groups in iraq.


17:32:50 Oct 12th 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

tell me how many american civilians are even in iraq.

Well there's the journalists, and some people there for reconstruction.  So... not many.

or does iraq have anything to do with 9/11.

Not directly.  Of course, history is full of non-direct connections.


17:56:28 Oct 12th 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

are the military there to support the journalists and ''constructior'' or is it the other way around

Not directly.  Of course, history is full of non-direct connections.

what are you implying?


01:31:58 Oct 13th 07 - Mr. Abu Yusef:

they are ther to support the petrol pumps .

yea , history is full of these things , if all the people who made history do like this , ther won't be still people to write that history


20:40:23 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Mightier:

If Muslims took over the world women would be treated like durt.


20:42:01 Oct 20th 07 - Lord Seloc:

so.....


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