500 mill?

100k archmages * 1250 =  125 mill in my book buddy

better look that fact up again.

the first 2 weeks I had an income and was buying stone much cheaper than .85

also, not sure how you'd have 100-200 mill maintinance when 11k land cost like,  7k each tick...  thats about 1.4 million not 100-200 million.

I do NOT currently have 100k AMs
mus cost practically nothing. NTM i use like 20-30k mages, not 1`00k like you.

I only recently bought slaves

100k slaves at 130 each is only 13 mill gold!

Yes, science cost about 80 million gold.

doesn't seem to add up to 500 mill, does it?

Egads. Sorry Balloon, thought you were V. Didnt realise you were Baccus, my bad. Sry.

This may be totally irrelevant. A thought came to me and the conclusion is this:
1) V stops Arma by wrecking the city and re-casts Arma would mean that V is confident of winning the era. This will also mean that the rest of the KDs have some catching up to do (and given the chance to do so).
2) V does not stop Arma would mean that the rest of you guys (non-V aligned KDs) are doing a good job of threatening V.

If the first scenario occurs, I will be enjoying more of the game, and so does everybody else. If the second scenario occurs, I am afraid the members in V will have to face some (unpleasant) music from the rest of the community.

The bashing and counter-bashing is getting interesting, with everybody penning down their guesses about each other. No facts = bad bash = "Time to wake up the Admiral"

(I am in Mantrax now, haha, enjoying the peace, whenever I have the chance).

The Truth speaks for itself, V lied to the ENTIRE VU community about their so called "Armagedon Block" LOL

And the WHOLE VU community actually trusted them. I guess V is laughing their ass off now since everyone actually believed them other than Lgc of course :P

so how long do we have to wait until we can play agian this is my first era.

my guess is it will start sunday like normal, and hopefully 2-3 of the major bugs are sealed up and will make it harder for cheating to happen.  On a side note, perhaps he will weaken dwarfs a tad so this won't happen again? :)

oh please you didnt own anyone-- except maybe a few *beep* kds you met in the first two weeks--  you beat us back in the north yeah all 4 or 5 of us?? versus your entire kd?   You wish you did such a thing Architect you wish- all that were true-- your kd didnt do anything but whore up and cast arma at the beginning of the era-- oh yeah and kill a few arms towns we set up outside your core took you long enuff to do that as well :P

I told you when you guys first casted arma-- you came to IRC and tried to talk and convince us of your little arma block-- you still defend that kd ?  IF you stand up for them now after this after you went on and on defending the arma "block" and turns out it wasnt as we said-- then you deserve the kd and the company you keep-- come back and knock us down again next era eh? lol

Legacy was beaten? ROFL

now that is truely funny Auspex-- I never knew you had such a sense of humor-- but how you factor taking out a few arms towns from a few of us outside your core as being beaten then you have more problems that we already think you have ! LOL

You want to bring up that era and that conversation we can- but your actions made that era turn out different-- your own fault-- anyway we all know you go for the easy win-- as this "block" you guys claimed -  it came as no surprise to us- that you wouldnt recast- it's typical for you -- but you can not claim any victory or that Legacy was beaten as we were never even touched- taking arms towns that a few us put up at your core- doesnt make us beat by a long shot.....

those scores dont mean anything-- never have- it's the battles and the wars that count you guys would know if you ever fought one ! :)  and we all know there wasnt 13 of us up there - 4 maybe 5 anyway... maybe one era you'll stick around and play out an era rather than taking the easy way out......

oh Auspice-- sell you pump story to someone else-- we didnt pump dvs-- and I find it rather entertaining that you of all ppl-- the one who plans his eras around pumping and feeding-- is so quick to try to claim that of someone else- anyway i've posted enuff-- have fun enjoy your fake win :)

short era, with some serious bugs exposed, hopefully they're fixed and life can start over again soon! who wants to go back to real life for more than one weekend anyway?

Damn Sloth, I wish I could escape real life for just a weekend myself!

lol Architect why would i be defensive?  My kd isnt the one who wimp'd out of an entire era by casting arma the first two weeks... and that glossy sheen you refer too i still got it - and everyone in VU sees me the same as they always have-- I speak my mind and they can see the twisted PR you guys are spewing now--  everyone knows you didnt beat anyone you didnt even fight anyone.... so dont be so quick to use words like "own" until you do it that is... who knows you might have had a chance.. but your kd has yet to ever do anything other than manipulate the game to get any kind of win they can.  And for your information I only had one arms town up there- yeah a few more joined us later but there were only 4-5 of us up there with any real troops-- so you can keep bragging about your big mighty feat of taking down our arms towns outside YOUR core but dont claim you beat legacy because you did no such thing..... you whored the top spot in the first two weeks of the era.....by a dwarf :) ooh congrats on that-- but you didnt win this game nor earn the era by any means...

i'm really done now! :)  peace out!

And you are, Lithlego? Some untagged player on Mantrax?

Squire Sloth, I respect certain players, and Auspex is one of them. I do not respect players who behave like certain Serenity scums and certain players whom you and I know.

V has more than 10 dwarves, and most of us know how dwarves works. Thus my only respect is to Squire Fortress.

Dwarves are great. No one except Dvsmasta could match my dwarven hordes 1v1. Want to test that theory out against me sometime?

You know damn well that dwarf armies are horrible late game.  1v1 i would of slaughtered you, not because of feeding, but because my troops  1 = 3.75 of yours.  THAT is why my armies were powerful, not because I abused some Bless bug, at my height i had a total of 25k lvl 10 mages.  That can hardly compare bless to bless with a few hundred thousand that Virgin had.

Mr. Auspex


3/21/2007 9:51:59 PMYes the bless battles against Dvs's pumped armies that were to come! Why bother, with our income we would have outdid you there too.

You were the only ones abusing a bless spell.  As I stated before, my highest mage count was 25k.  When you guys threw in a super bless, my %age to attack sloth's merge went from 90% to 2%, and then up to 5% after I blessed my army.  Please do tell me I was abusing bless, because I obviously wasn't.

You know damn well that dwarf armies are horrible late game.

I disagree. But no race compares to an elf/orc staying at 12k land. It's not even close.

You were the only ones abusing a bless spell.

Stop blaming us for abuse. It's a spell in the game that's overpowered.

You are making it sound like V's strategy was to massively pump for a bless spell and then abused it to no end. I'm sick of this crap, when bless was cast we had 0% on your city before and after. We thought it was useless. Until you started running and abusing the chain-merge, because you saw your odds drop.

And other people used bless. They posted about it in the public forums, FFS!!! Last era. Wake up. Please. 

IF .... Lgc is beaten I certainly won't credit it to V cause they really did nothing till AFTER armagedon is casted. Before the armagedon, I think Lgc have to deal with a lot of other kds, MAD got the most of us hehe and they fought well from what I can see ;)

Then Barcus fought Lgc too after armagedon was casted, after them beating Girls Power, IF ... the fighting continues with Barcus, maybe they will deserve credits to beating Lgc.

So V deserves the least credits, just because they took out the Lgc amouries around their core and they brag about beating Lgc, which I don't see how or why they can speak like they can now simply because they whore to the top for the ranking, cast armagedon then deceived the whole of the VU community that it is a armagedon block.

So no matter what ppl from V said, it's a fact that THEY LIED ABOUT THIS ARMAGEDOM BEING A ARMAGEDON BLOCK. Whether Lgc take the armagedon colony after it's casted have nothing to do with anything. Lastly this armagedon came too early, I wonder how can ppl from V said that A LOT OF PPL supported that armagedon should continues. A LIE IS A LIE, you can never deny the fact that V LIED.

Yea, you all lost, get over it.

Yup, V wins, and your still not over it.  Dude, there is no way you guys will admit defeat, even if some KD were to wipe LGC out entirely you would still say you were not defeated and in fact you actually won.  Since you can never admit to defeat, I've decided that since you like dishing out the crap, can give some back, and your not taking it all that well I see.  We won legitimately and you cant accept that, so your hitting us with all of this to try and mask it, so that everyone will forget.....forget that is that you got Pwned.

I really think we should just do things the legacy way and name the top non-auspice and co ruler. Nice job on the win Crom!

Satisfied??

Architect, there is a difference between lying to win and win with integrity.

V just showed us that they NEED TO LIE TO WIN. I believe MOST ppl think that armagedon is too soon. But V lied and said that IT WAS AN ARMAGEDON BLOCK to prevent Lgc from casting it.

This put ALL those ppl who doesn't want this era to end off guard and EVERYONE other than lgc ppl trusted V and think they will not end this era yet and continue with their fun friendly war or build up their nice kd and get ready to war someone the next thing they know is V LIED AND THE ERA WAS OVER.

If V was to tell everyone this ARMAGEDON is the real thing I believe there will be ppl out there wanting to put a stop to this armagedon. Lgc tried and failed but maybe some other kds will too :) But V lied to them and put them off guard. Lying to win lack integrity.

First off, who are you?  You know nothign about what your talking about.  It's a game, you play it, and what we did was no worse than anything LGC has pulled in the past.  LGC tried nothing, they sat there and were slaughtered. 

It did start as an Arma block, but after talking to alot of people from VU, we found that it was about a 50/50 split with people who wanted it to end and people who wanted it to continue, and with our members getting bored we decided to let it slide to the end.

If your talking about integriy, and that being the only way to win, then neither LGC or any other KD in the history of this game as actually won, we all lost because we are lacking integrity, poor us. 

*Disclaimer*
For all of you that know me more than from this thread alone, you will notice that I am much much more harsh here that I have ever been or will be in the past or future.  LGC deserves no kindness from me in words or actions as I have never seen any from them, so I intend not to show them any.

I wonder where Architect's "A LOT OF PPL" come from? and how did he talk to them? MSN? or just that pathetic #VU irc where a random ppl popup once in a while, hehe

If you talk to EVEN 50 ppl from VU it's not what I will say as A LOT which is NOT even 50% of the ppl playing VU. Fact is fact. V LIED.

I only see V posting in the forum "IT'S AN ARMAGEDON BLOCK" I didn't see them posting, "WE DECIDED TO LET ARMAGEDON RUN" come get us if you dare?

So there is no such things as A LOT OF PPL. Again, V lied and lied badly about their excuse to let armagedon run.

Wow, you're so bitter Brain. Have you ever stopped to think *why* Zeta might view Legacy differently from other KDs?

Killing off younger KDs? What KD did we kill that was newer than us? V is 2 eras old with 75% new players.

Plans change, as Quietone told me in era 19 :P. Between the time Arma was cast and the end of the era, a lot happened. Bless was found to be overpowering and pumping happened again