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dont fear death as much as who? anyway patriotic....ness isnt really a measure of how good a country is, everybody has them 

Angel of Death, when was the last time America actually went to war?  When was the last time the citizens of America had to interrupt their daily lives, change jobs, contribute to the war effort, worry about the enemy launching a fullscale invasion landing on the east or west coast?  Not since WWII, or maybe the Korean War.  Our generation have never experienced death like since back then.  Who are you to say you don't fear it?

Accually Angel, the rest of the world is trying to save the dollar as we speak, our Swedish goverment is selling our gold reserve to buy dollars for example..

Also, how did Nicaragua, Liberia, Vietnam, Chile, Guatemala, the Philipines etc provoke you by spilling your blood?

you dont like arguing because you cant? :P

Mr. Ghoumzter how did the Indians, France, France about 6 more times, Germany, Germany again, Spain about 20 times, Portugal around 3 times, America twice, 99% of Africa...and so on and so forth.

 Deserve to be attacked?

Don't try to paint America as the most  warlike country ever because were not.We get beat out of that tittle by just about every country in Europe . Most of the time we actually want to do some good to help. World War 1 was what Nationalism??? World War 2 was because you guys felt like being jerks to Germany and screw it up. I'd say we have a few better reasons then you to go to war.

it was the trown prince of austria a very close nation with germany if i remember right. after wich germany and/or austria started aggresians agains serbia and russia declared war and the rest of the allies joined.

source: ''Western'' history books

I wouldn't quite say the second world war was entirely because of being jerkish to Germany... You couldn't deny Hitler was a mad-man and he must have been a great speaker... World war 1 was because of the Serbian assination of some country's president or something I think... They took it out on Germany though...

But Hitler would never raise to power if you guys had taken America's advice and not blamed it totally on Germany, it was everyone in Europe's fault. We wanted everyone to take equal responsibilty but no. Besides there are millions of madmen today but none of them change anything, the reason? The right climate and conditions have to be fufilled and Hitler came in just the right time. He would never have done any of those things if Britian(among others) hadn't lit the spark to start the fire and yes World War 1 was completely nationalism. That assasination happened because of a group of nationalists.

The one reason for the secound World War was the Treaty or versaille.

Blame the French !!

It wasn´t the fault of any of those countries, but because of their leaders... Wars start for geopolitical, historical and economic reasons. Yet, the first and most important factor you need for a war to start is a leader who decides war is a good choice (thus he must hate the enemy country somehow). And the feeling must be in both factions. America isn´t at war right now (a war involves more than one country attacking each other). America is just in plain aggression against some of those Muslim people we on the western side do not like (that again for historical and mostly economic reasons). About the other discussion, the dollar being weak isn´t such a surprise, the U.S. are quickly losing their spot as the most powerful nation in the planet. After all, the Asians are more productive people (because of their culture and education-we all know what is going on in Japan). Once China´s middle class outgrows the American one, all the industries will move their focus point to the east. And that means that our glorified western culture won´t be the one being globalized anymore.

China also still has its sweatshops, child labor, and lack of human rights... these allow it to outproduce other countries that guarantee certain standards.

China is not the new super power....yet. Maybein 30 years or so, but the US still is stronger.

well actualy the real super powers will stay the same the few elite that are now in US and have all the power and wealth will be (maybe are) long gone to a diffrent country with they entire wealth (or more) bye a phone call and 2 clicks on a computer..
Its the regualr people that are alway screwed in times like this

 Main super powers of the world

U.S.A
Britain
China

for either one of hose, take Britain off ;)

I think it would just be America and China (not now, but in the upcoming decades. Anyway, human rights and all that stuff doesn´t have that much to do with China becoming a superpower, the most important reason for its growth is the existence of one sixth of the world´s population inside its borders). You could add there the European Union, but just as a whole. Alone they don´t stand a chance.

The EU will never be a strong superpower. The only time the countries are united are on paper when looking at countries GDP. Each and every one of them work completely independantly when it comes to military and economics. Look at Germany they're getting a new tank to take over for all there old ones. Greece on the other hand is getting an entirely different kind. They're trying to pull of another United State's but it's not working.

Kassius what do you think the European Union is trying to do? It's obvious they got the idea off the United States.

That'll happen as soon as France, Germany etc. Decide to take themselves off the GDP list. There rivalries run to deep for it to ever become a country.

sigheart as i said before incase your ego bloked it out, nobodys tryin to copy the US ghoum i never said anything bout britain having a large army i was talking bout how well trained it was

everyone knows tha SAS pwns all other spec ops unit (

True. America has a larger budget, and more troops, but Britain has probably the best troops in the world. Canada's (tiny) army is well, Tiny. However, it is extremely well trained, at about the same level as Britain's army. (Yes, The SAS are still better than any Canadian forces group that I know of...)
America's troop quality and discipline is far behind Britain's and Canada's. Yet they are the military superpower currently, because they've invested huge amounts of money into numbers and vehicles.
China has a huge army, but it is currently outdated, poorly trained and poorly equipped. (The latter will likely be rectified in the next few years, with the former improving slightly over time.)
In the unlikely case that the EU ever joined together, they could be extremely effective.

0_o The ignorance in this thread is blowing my mind. Don't you guys know? Israel is the definite best it's been admitted by almost every country you guys have been talking about. While this may suprise people but in terms of best trained The South American army is next and America(thanks mainly to our Seals, Marine's, Airforce) with Britain Close behind or slightly ahead.

Woops I meant South African army.

0_o The ignorance in this thread is blowing my mind. Don't you guys know? Israel is the definite best it's been admitted by almost every country you guys have been talking about. While this may suprise people but in terms of best trained The South African(fixed) army is next and America(thanks mainly to our Seals, Marine's, Airforce) with Britain Close behind or slightly ahead.

There mistake fixed and now that the mistake is fixed yes I can call everyone else ignorant.

Your being sarcastic right? Costa Rica doesn't even have a military.