Debates

Debates

18:16:10 Oct 21st 07 - Lord Seloc:

Seloc's Topic

The house in debating: There should be another role playing title.

For
Seloc

Against

18:42:59 Oct 21st 07 - Mr. Sigheart:

In the context of 21st century America, should parties and sites such as Neo Nazis have the right to exist? Or should they be regulated and in esscence censored?

For Keeping things
Sigheart

Against Keeping things like this

Disclaimer: this is not about whether you are racist or not it's about to what point should liberty extend to.

18:43:32 Oct 21st 07 - Mr. Vengence:

Vengence's topic

Debate: up the amount of B-turns you can store to five

For

Vengence

Against

22:38:12 Oct 21st 07 - Mr. Muse:

In the context of 21st century America, should parties and sites such as Neo Nazis have the right to exist? Or should they be regulated and in esscence censored?

For Keeping things
Sigheart

Against Keeping things like this

Muse

Disclaimer: this is not about whether you are racist or not it's about to what point should liberty extend to.

17:28:04 Oct 22nd 07 - Mr. Killer:

All right, 1 debate, 2 people done. Only another 3 debates left. Another 4 days left or so to get your topics.

17:54:59 Oct 22nd 07 - Lord Seloc:

Seloc's Topic with a few improvements.

The house is debating: There should be another role playing title, (Zeta's point of veiw.)

For

Against
Seloc

(This is just for the sake of arguement.)

17:05:29 Oct 23rd 07 - Lord Seloc:

lol Septim.....

Lord Seloc

10/22/2007 4:54:59 PM
Seloc's Topic with a few improvements.

The house is debating: There should be another role playing title, (Zeta's point of veiw.)

For

Against
Seloc

(This is just for the sake of arguement.)

17:57:02 Oct 23rd 07 - Mr. Killer:

Right, Septim, you can debate against Seloc if you want, but everyone please stop *beep*ming by having more than one person on each side of a debate.

22:32:36 Oct 23rd 07 - Mr. Zorkhana:

when do the judges start judging?

22:38:29 Oct 23rd 07 - Sir Verll:

when the debating start

22:58:09 Oct 23rd 07 - Mr. Zorkhana:

oooh.. ok, thx

17:32:04 Oct 24th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ok, I want all debaters getting a debate quickly-ish. That is why I'm making one, which will (hopefully) be even-sided.

Is there very likely to be life on other planets? (Note: I think there is, but I'll take either side of the debate.)

For
(Killer)

Against
(Killer)

19:39:34 Oct 24th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Sorry, here is my real topic:

Is it likely that there is fairly complex life(more than a single cell or a few of them...) on other planets? (Note: I think there is, but I'll take either side of the debate.)

For
(Killer)

Against
(Killer)

21:40:27 Oct 24th 07 - Sir Verll:

Mr. Zorkhana

Report

10/23/2007 10:58:09 PM oooh.. ok, thx

Np :)

19:56:12 Oct 25th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Right, I'm giving you until Sunday to get debates. I'm not sure everyone is reading here anymore, so say that you're here if you're reading here, and if you are a player, say you're thinking about the topic if you haven't already picked.

20:00:12 Oct 25th 07 - Pirate Lewatha:

well, why's there only 1 person on each side of a debate? Aren't debates suposed to be multiple people VS multiple people.?

20:09:17 Oct 25th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Not necssarily. And they'd have to work with each other then. This way is easier.

19:58:08 Oct 26th 07 - Mr. Killer:

...Hello?

15:01:17 Oct 27th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Right, if no-one replys by tommorrow could someone please delete this thread?

15:22:30 Oct 27th 07 - Mr. Zorkhana:

... when do we start... i'm bored...

17:28:59 Oct 27th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Huh, we should start tommorrow. I'm going to stick people into random topics if they don't hurry up.
I'll make them unfair as well :P

17:34:11 Oct 27th 07 - Lord Seloc:

That sounds like a good idea.

17:45:03 Oct 27th 07 - Mr. Zorkhana:

chyea... lets do that

13:48:51 Oct 28th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Players Judges

Killer Killer
Erunion Telcontar Erunion Telcontar
Sighheart Verll
Seloc Kassius
Lucias Septim II Zorkhana
Vengence Vengence
Muse
Verll

Seloc's Topic

The house in debating: There should be another role playing title.

For
Seloc

Against
Erunion Telcontar

Debate: up the amount of B-turns you can store to five

For

Vengence

Against

Lucias Septim II

In the context of 21st century America, should parties and sites such as Neo Nazis have the right to exist? Or should they be regulated and in esscence censored?

For Keeping things
Sigheart

Against Keeping things like this
Muse

Disclaimer: this is not about whether you are racist or not it's about to what point should liberty extend to.

Is there likely to be pretty complex life on other planets?

For
Verll

Against
Killer

Good luck all. First five days for actual debate. Next 3 days for asking questions about persons debate, and another 3 days for answering them. Both players at the same time.(for the amount of days, not actually at the same time...)

13:54:00 Oct 28th 07 - Mr. Killer:

All judges not playing judge all debates, ones who play don't judge their own(duh...) For Muse V Sigheart debate, all judges apart from me judge. For Killer V Verll, only 3 judges are there(sorry, I would have had to take debaters out of their choices, and I couldn't do that): Zorkhana, Kassius, Vengence.

15:49:19 Oct 28th 07 - Sir Verll:

OF COURSE IT'S COMPLEX LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS!!!!

HAVEN'T YOU EVER SEEN STAR WARS?!?!?!!?!?

16:05:57 Oct 28th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ummmm... please have your debate all together, and I hope that's not all your going to write.

16:10:54 Oct 28th 07 - Sir Verll:

Thats my start....

18:11:48 Oct 29th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Judges, ladies, and gentlemen,
               I am going to discuss the fact that it is unlikely that there is complex life on other planets. Take a look at the planets around earth, they are pretty much uninhabitable, and no complex life would grow there. Maybe a few single-celled life-forms, but that's pretty much it. The earth having formed life was incredibly unlikely, and the fact tht it did, miraculous.
        But there are lllloooooooaaaaaaaaddddddddssssssss of factors that made life possible on earth. Water, you might say, is replaceable with other stuff. Water, the very essence of our existance. Without it, we wouldn't be here. You may say that water as the basis of life is replaceable, and it is on most other planets at any rate. However, if you looked at Venus, an incredibly toxic planet, that was once very like the earth, with one main difference, less water. Earth would be like Venus only for water(in rocks and stuff), which prevents millions of tonnes of carbon dioxide, nitrogen, and other toxic chemicals being released into the atmoshpere, even though we(humans) seem to be trying very hard to let them all out into it , and so destroy the planet. You'd hardly see water in all three forms of solid, gas and liquid on any planet. Less than 10 per million, probably. None surrounding the sun anyway apart from the earth. And all three forms are necessary for the forming of life with water as the basis.
          What, I hear you say, if water wasn't the basis? Well... there are plenty of other factors which affect the forming of life. The Sun, for instance, for heat, and light. Would there be many planets in such a position as the earth, so that complex life could form? The star would have to be farily big, so life would have a long enough time to form, so the planet would have to be a good bit away from the star. If it were too cold or too warm, life wouldn't go much further than a single-celled life-form.
          And gravity, if the gravity were too strong, life on that planet would be crushed very quickly, and if it were too weak, life couldn't form either. And that gravity, would attract asteroids and such towards the planet, destroying life. Life to form on earth was very lucky, after those few asteroid hitting the earth. Jupiter, whose gravity is huge, saved the earth from getting hit by some more of them, there making life possible. Would other planets be so lucky? Right I think that's enough... Thank you for listening(technically you're reading, but debates are to be heard, not seen.)

18:34:14 Oct 29th 07 - Sir Verll:

So you think that among the millions upon millions of other planets out there, that none have the same factors as earth?

18:39:56 Oct 29th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Everyone does realise that all the debates are to be posted between now and Saturday?... (no-one I suppose...)

18:41:02 Oct 29th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Eh-emmm, questions after you have posted your debate :P

18:54:09 Oct 29th 07 - Lord Seloc:

Ladies and Gentleman the motion before the house is: There should be another role playing title.

There should be another role playing title, as the current ones are, growing old and the females lack a title.

Mr/Ms
Sir/Lady
Lord/Lady
Duke/Duchess
Prince/Princess.

As most can see, the females have the same title for two columns. This is unfair as it is sexist towards the females.
Plenty of suggestion have been posted in forums over the year as to what this may be, and whether It's a new column completly or another title for the ladies that should be added.
The numorus population of VU agree with me on this I'm sure.
Mr killer sir, *Seloc bows* The honorable judges. *and again.* I'm am for this motion.

18:58:38 Oct 29th 07 - Sir Scientist:

[[All of the debates that were not fitting your rules, have been deleted.....please report the things that you want deleted, they are easier to find that way :P ]]

19:17:20 Oct 29th 07 - Mr. Erunion Telcontar:

{Darn you all! I'm for Roleplaying titles! In fact, I'm one of the spearheads of the movement to get ZeTa to give them to us. Well, I'll start thinking up some arguments against....}

19:52:11 Oct 29th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ah, thank you. I'll do so in future.

Sorry Erunion Telcontar, but maybe you should have picked a topic... I presumed Seloc wanted to play for it, as he said so first.

13:25:25 Nov 1st 07 - Mr. Killer:

2 more days...

15:00:33 Nov 5th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

ok, im a bit l8 but oh well...............

the amount of B-turns you can store should be made higher, to five. the reasons for this are: if you get say, 4 B-turns in the time your offline, if you go on holiday for a week say. then you would have lost one of your B-turns and cost you an advantage. also, the low limit means it is hard to sneak up on enemies, as by the time your 3ticks away the defending player would be able to mount defenses against you, as by that time the army would be visible. however, 5 ticks away, you would'nt be seen as imminent danger, well, at least until evryone got used to the new rule. you could then attack, with surprise on your size, greatening the chance of success. I would make teh game more interesting i think. the limit, however, shouldnt be completely limitless, as that could be abused, if you saved all era then used them at the end.

so, thats my start. whoevers against please post.

18:15:05 Nov 5th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Right, until this Wednesday, no later...

20:53:26 Nov 5th 07 - Pirate Lewatha:

seloc, nicely stolen from my thread :p

03:11:31 Nov 7th 07 - Mr. Zorkhana:

OOC: you dont egt 1 bonus turn for every 12 hours your offline, you only get 1 bonues turn if you're off for longer tahn 12 hours... I may be wrong though, but last time i was off for over 24 hours and i got back on and only had 1 B-turn.

18:19:26 Nov 7th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ehh...emmm... Time's up. Now, time to pose questions about the other debaters post. All those 3 people(inc. myself) who have nothing to do...

18:42:48 Nov 7th 07 - Lord Seloc:

lol Erunion does that mean you give up?

17:52:45 Nov 8th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

sooooooooooooo.............. do i win??? cos he didnt post??/

18:09:49 Nov 8th 07 - Mr. Erunion Telcontar:

Sorry, I've been busy. So now it's to late to make a stance?

20:27:02 Nov 8th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Uh...huh...
I kind of need a fourth debater for the next round though...

15:52:47 Nov 11th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

this isnt working, can we please start again?

16:04:00 Nov 11th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Start all over again? :S Only half the era left... How about deleting it completely?...

16:28:18 Nov 11th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

what u mean only alf the era left????

so what?????????????

delete this thread, do a new one, new debates, new everything!

16:50:42 Nov 11th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Couldn't be bothered... You want to do it?

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