If you know anything about Carnage you know that we hate stalemates more than anything in this game...  Zeon was supposed to be a small bump in the road while on the way to PHI and eventually Abydos.  But then apparently you somehow learned how to effectively pump troops into a blocker overnight, and then we ran into some problems...

Not really. I think too many of us farmed early, while you pumped troops early.

*This may not be true... but I believe this is what happened.

Now, we are likely stuck in a grid lock for the rest of the era. We had a few small victories, but none of them against Zeon.

Music was a great kingdom and Spoon will always be the man ;) Archi's not over reacting he was just hurt and reacted out of that. One thing though, if you would have told me Music was going to join Zeon before it happened, i would have thought you were on crack ;) It was a shocker. But i will never question the honor of Music or it's members or it's leader, it just would have been fun to fight ya guys again. But in essence i guess we are :P

If you read my post, you will probably notice I'm already freaking bored with the stalemate. And according to me, there are only 2 ways to change it. The problem is that both ways need some courage to actually go through with it and I know that most likely noone will ever start doing it (including me).

Both ways also depend on the players own decisions, there is no use to force them into the game because someone will always find a way around.

1) Keep Kingdoms smaller. I'm not suggesting to get a KD limit, but if people could just agree to keep Kingdoms small, there would be more fun. Little Kingdoms do have more fun now, because they have to fight to survive. As long as you are small, there won't be many bigass Kingdoms granting you a NAP which can keep you safe.
ie. Music. Everytime we get to Fantasia, we have to few members to actually compete with the big guys. so we have to fight right from the start because people see us as prey.
Alliances can still be formed if you have some friends in other KD's, but getting good agreements with every neighbour you have will become way more difficult.
Big problem here is that bigger Kingdoms provide more chance for succes because of better protection. so people aiming for an Era win will most likely prefer a big KD.

(I start talking about big KD's from 20 members and up, small KD's are 15 members and less)

2) Stop all the whining about NAP breaking. This solution is easier and there shouldn't be any problems because it just eliminates an unwritten rule. If you start considering a NAP as something very temporary that can be broken at any time and you should always expect an attack from even you allies, you can't leave a single side of your area undefended, because someone will see a nice opportunity to increase their strenght by taking your cities.
This can make the game more interesting imho. Wars could quickly change from a victory to a defeat because your enemy convinced your ally that attacking you would be better.
This would only require a change in mentality, though thats probably way to much to ask from human beings (once again, including myself). Big problem is that anyone could decide to just stick together till the end and use their combined force to crush all the others who can't be 100% sure of their allies..

no you would still get crushed.

I really think that the new walls should be given a try. That would end a lot of stalemates.

The problem is that once a stalemate is reached, people don't have to be vigilant with their defenses. Sure, there is the wall hoping technique, but there will always be one main access. A person could be on as little as once a day to move troops to the wall, build, and train more troops. That is not how this game is supposed to unfold.

The new walls proposed would be able to be breached anywhere along its length given enough time. Vigilance would be required while cunning could be used to get across. Look up the thread under suggestions... it should still be in there.

Carnage will prevail against the invading forces

Where do you guys get the gall for something like this?

Message From Mr. Kobuskan

Music

Mr. Kobuskan [Zeon] (1/17/2008 2:40:42 PM)
What about you to joining Music next era ?

i think that our methods are wrong clone.
i mean shure we lock him up and when he brakes out he goes on a rampage kills thousends.. but i we would let him free maybe he would only kill a a few zeons every day indstead?

Did not no that Architect creates newb armies

Magic

Casting Eye in the sky from Snack upon Transfer II with 8% chance of success... and Successful!

Through the eye we can see this information about The Transfer II from Mr. Architect[Havoc]:
Transfer II from Mr. Architect
Gaia:225893
Hammerthrowers:0
Ogres:0
Shamans:0
Nazguls:1
Peasants:0

We like to keep things even. Where's the fun else if we kill you off again so easily?

gaia pumping is pointless :P at least pump hammers

You can train good quality troops, but it wont be as fun as a huge horde of farmers with pitchforks and torches.

everything started when i builded my armory "pingvino armija"  :D carnage sended faked merge 5k but i killed that .. and everyone inn zeon had started to build armorys next to mine .. then blockers and fak  we got stucked .. so send ure faked 4--7mill merge to our blocker and we will se.. maybe carnage will win?? :D

Architect wrote: "My intentions for this era before we got stopped at the stupid blocker with Zeon was to claim the #1 spot with Orc."

Which explains Holder. What is it? A 90k with nothing but homes and stuffed full of gaia? lol. The only way orcs or trolls can reach even the top 20 is by way of massive early-game conquests. That's what they were designed for: all-out warfare. Farming strats are for dwarves and halflings. And the tendency for there to be stalemates and long drawn-out wars of attrition on Fantasia is what  favors those two races even more.

btw gothrim u are wrong *beep*

Trolls are new score-wh0res if you *beep* zerkers...

I stay out of these useless politics threads...

Another Carnage HoH army of the map.

We killed all of the 546036 troops and 0 peasants

Better leave those HoH armies inside your blockers, they are easy prey now. 

@ Kobuskan

Nice one! That will teach them to stop trying to ruin a perfectly good stalemate.  You had better listen to the man and get back to your blockers carnage!!!