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Era of Grumpyoldbastard
00:01:26 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Sean Elderson:

LOL... Maybe if everyone new you were a good guy Osi. Perhaps change your name to Friendly Lord Finwe. :P j/k


00:02:53 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

well i dont value the opinions of retards :) thats what the ignore feature of irc was made for


00:04:38 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Sloth:

all that really matters is the Kingdom at the top of the charts... just make it the "Era of Abydos" and leave individual players out of it ;-)


00:06:02 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Sean Elderson:

Ouch. /me is brutalized by the flame of Osi's stinging retort. But seriously until scoring is fixed then whoring and farming are always going to outscore a true warrior. I would love to see an era winner by just fighting, but it is not going to happen.


00:06:43 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Sloth:

Lenard fed more than anyone and he did it in what I consider the worst way.  Abydos started kicking members and letting Lenard take over their cities to boost his score.

Architect, please leave your ignorance at the door. There is no Lenard in Abydos, and no one was kicked from Abydos. That makes you wrong on both counts. Thanks for trying though.


00:08:04 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

well when you come fight someone who isnt PKS long term crap rainbow builders then maybe ;) but a warrior was going to win untill you pumped raist. considering legend took out a ton of players in the early war and was a massive contribution to the lgc war


00:10:19 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Sloth:

Yeah, if we had known you were just going to feed Gumpyoldbastard to get to the top, we could have easily fed Freedom Fighters to one of our top players. Instead we were naive and focused on the overall victory and not the individual win. In my opinion, our fault for not letting one player take every one of the FF cities and letting DB steal the win by giving Gumpyoldbastard the PKS cities.


00:12:33 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Legend:

First, I am not lenard. I have actually only played 4 eras of VU now. Last era I was #1 troll.

Second, I will explain my situation.
Alright let me clear things up....I was in the lead the whole time with more armies than any single person 95% of the time. By the end i had more than 25% armies than any1. I noticed grumpy took 5th, then second, then passed me, which seemed unbelievable because i knew my income was higher than any person and that i had been straight training for hundreds of ticks. I knew he had been fed. Grumpy and I were switching on and off for first for a few days until he stayed there even after a ghost warrior had been cast for me. Now, at this time I knew for certain he had been fed. On the last day condinho gave his cities to me. He is tired of this game and really doesn't care. Finwe had nothing to do with this it was merely an agreement between condinho and I not wanting to see an undeserved win.

So, If you want the person who got fed the most, Grumpy is definitely the winner there.

If you want the person who clearly had the most armies and used them the entire time and still had the most points, I am the winner there. Its that simple.

Third, When it comes down to it...how many armies did grumpy have ever on the hoh? I had the number one army the entire time, it just may not have been combined but it was on the hoh. At the end I had 3 hoh armies and grumpy had how many? ever? No big deal he had twice as much land as me and clearly planned his farming/feeding era win.

Fourth-No1 can say i farmed too much, which seems to be a good thing to most people.

Fifth-There's always next era, good luck to all and please try to stay honorable.

Sixth-I can't congratulate Grumpy, sorry


Thanks, Legend


00:25:11 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Condinho:

go legend


00:26:57 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Sean Elderson:

Look at the races at the top. Only one halfling. You guys did a really good job this era, but scoring is based on land and military size. Dwarves and their cavers are always going to be at the top. Blame the system: not those that know how to use it. DB did not do anything illegal. Next era come for us with guns blazing, and use every legal tool in the game to beat us. We are looking forward to the fight, and hope to both learn form the experience and earn your respect. :p


00:32:10 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

we blame the system and those that abuse it for their own gain : hence we dont wall hop or wallswap :) but dont worry we will be comming for you. our respect though? probably not going to be gained.


00:34:27 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Neo Destroyer of Agent Smith:

fine we will just spank u guys then Osi.

We wont be using wall hop or crap so dont be insinuating we will be


00:36:20 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Go um...........Messiah?


00:43:28 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Sean Elderson:

Hey this flamefest is between Abydos and Dark Blood. You Zeon guys are not welcome. :p


00:54:00 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Grumpyoldbastard:

Legend i will have to correct you.

You *assumed* you had the highest income, you *Assumed* you had the most armies  and you were *convinced* that you are dominating in your (now blatantly obvious) streak of arrogance.

Now i will correct you.
First of all, i can imagine you having a boatload of troops on the field, very nice for you, i had several boatloads of troops in our blockers, i was just not as flamboyant about it as you were.

We *were* trading places on the HoH but we traded it due to me losing *beep*loads of troops on a neverending quest to bruteforce a cursed wall (grrrrr, Jonathan how much i cursed you and our mages!) and not paying attention to my HoH spot (buying up all resources from KD mates i could see to channel some of my income into their hands as some were away over holidays etc). And if Osi wouldn't display such annoyingly LGCish attitude in taking colonies that weren't yours to take i would keep not paying attention as frankly, i really didn't care about your craving to "dominate". That changed there and then. And voila, me being an old experienced hoe i did all that was needed to overtake you for good, i had the network to do it and trust me, my income matched the network (your assumption about being biggest and baddest was only that - an assumption).

Now, i know you guys need something to cling on to and you are gonna cry about feeding till the end of existence, and i'm probably expected to
care  about it but to answer Lewatha at this point: Yes girl, i'm well aware of what i did, and if i didn't have then Legend would have only missed the HoH spot by a million. Would that make you any happier? I sincerely doubt so.

So go on with your whining and crying, all you do with it is make yourself look silly :)

Legend you obviously can't accept being beaten at your own game, but you still get gratz from me, as you did good. And had you won you'd still get the gratz from me. Show some integrity and don't let emotions guide your reasoning. As that steers you away from the truth.

*hugs&kisses*

/Raist ze Grumpyoldbastard


00:56:55 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

for the last time we wouldnt take your cities if you wasnt helping lgc in a war vs us. what did you expect us to do. So your telling me if i am activly aiding your enemies you will just leave me alone?


01:15:30 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Grumpyoldbastard:

Osi i'm telling you to learn some manners. You know, the usual cordial "dude, we'll be taking your colonies here, hope you don't mind" upon which you'd get a reply along the lines of "no, not at all, go ahead don't really need them anyway".

Instead you wen't on about trust and such which ofc is utter bollox. If you take a man's colonies you better make sure you inform him of it. Especially if he hasn't lifted a finger against you.

You say aiding your "enemy" i say helping friends do some transferrals. Not remotely connected to you. But ofc your universe is so big that all actions of people inside VU somehow brush against it. Sheesh, give me a break Osi. Seriously. You are full of garbage and you know it.


01:24:52 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Legend:

My assumption comes from logical reasoning. I know how many troops all other hoh people had and you were nowhere to be seen 90% of the era. Either way you look at it i still had many more troops than you the entire era. Yes, i am allowed to assume and my assumptions are correct.

You don't think i was fighting. What about Music? What about GODLIKE? WHAT ABOUT LEGACY?? WHAT ABOUT LIGHT BLOOD????? I pretty much took them out myself when surviver was on the hoh.

My armies were out of blockers more than anyone else in the kingdom, due to the fact that it was possible for me with my income.

Like Sloth said, we could hae easily fed any single person to the hoh spot by simply letting them overtake FF. Congrats you took over PKS after the entire era. I'm glad u were also leading merges with scouts while I was leading merges with hundreds of thousands of axes, good job. That is a huge accomplishment lol....


01:25:24 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

right helping your friends so they could increase the magic protection of there wall. are you that naive? no i didnt think so and im the one full of *beep*? have you turned into a pansy these days?


01:34:27 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Grumpyoldbastard:

Osi as soon as im supposed to swallow the bollox about Light Blood that Legend there is trying to sell me i will be naive indeed. As for the  big  help, Sezy approached me and said "dude i need you to help us change ownership" and i said "sure, just tell me where and what".  It's called  having friends in the game.

Legend we know why Lightblood existed so shut up about that "conquest" ok? :) For your own good. Godlike? Music? are they even a Kingdom? lol And yes, you really really really trashed Legacy, we all clearly saw that lmao. C'mon now. Breathe in, breathe out, oxygen to the brain and *then* type. You could have? No baby, you *tried* and failed. So shut the f*ck up and move on. Logic. LOL Give me a break, what is this, kindergarden reasoning match? "i was big" "my armies were on HoH" "how did this happen" "cry cry cry" Legend you are wrong on so many accounts it's not even funny (ok, ok, it is funny but you know the how the phrase goes). So please oh please keep digging, soon we won't even see you anymore as the hole will get too deep.



01:41:51 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

It took you guys all era to beat db and you have the balls to say that? Raist if your too stupid to realise wallswapping with lgc is going to make you a target well then i feel sorry for you. and yes Legend did kill Lightblood and yes we all know they were made to be anti db. they attacked us we killed them whats the problem with that? I have friends ingame raist the only difference is i dont ask them to help me townswap and they wouldnt be stupid enough to not realise that townswapping a wall to an elf is a hostile act against the kd it is aimed at.


01:47:50 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Surviver:

@finwe am sure you do not want me to start flaming how corrupted you are  :)besides Lightblood wasn't killed,It was more if They disban to finish off.Plus No gain by legend anyways so please don't start any bull like Lightblood  attacked frist.If you going to tell somthing here do it the truth not some thing that makes you look like a good guy.


01:49:29 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Grumpyoldbastard:

Osi we have the balls to laugh at a KD pretending to be something that they aren't :) You are trying to be the next LGC, but you lack the panache for it. And it took us all era to beat PKS actually. And yes Lightblood were made to be anti db. Of course, and Phi and Aby arent affiliated in any way and Legend didn't take Condinhos colonies, and Legacy backed away, not you as you wanted to spare Legends troops to save his spot. And you are conquering heroes for rolling over some poor hapless nabs and we should all scream at the top of our lungs "Osi is the king, Osi is the king!". Wait, no, thats some other dream of yours and you will have to sort of snap out of it.

Osi go tell good night tales to somebody else. Please. We both know that the truth in this game is always multi-layered and that nothing is as obvious as it seems at first glance. What you can do to come off as the bigger man now is say "oh well, we just didn't make it, better luck next time". Ofc you will war us next era, we are all looking forward to it, and thats gonna be it. No need for the whole testosterone induced "we will come get you and shed blood and god knows whatnot" speeches. Its VU. Ofc you will come after us. We took your era away from you. Or did you think that we naively thought that you wouldn't be if we said "woops, soorryyy our bad" :D


01:54:07 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

Survivor so we built in lands that you claimed so what? you razed them we trashed you. i dont remember denying any relations with phi though raist. As for lgc well yes we pretty much kicked some lgc ass this era which is a hell of a lot more then i can say for you. those "nubs" we killed are probably stronger then pks. The new lgc? nooo we will never be as dominant as lgc have been but i ask is there anything wrong with being the most powerfull kd? yes yes raist you and db are so uber leet and we sux i mean we only warred lgc and killed lightblood Music godlike and FF not the mighty PKS that you took down.


01:54:21 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Mavich The Hypocrite:

Actually Lb was created so I could get rid of Survivor. =)


01:56:04 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

and how may i ask raist are we pretending to be something we are not?


01:56:14 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Sean Elderson:

LMAO.... Woops, sorry our bad...

 

 

paid for by the Raistlin for president fund


01:56:58 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Grumpyoldbastard:

As a little sidenote. If you so completely and utterly trashed LGC as you said you did, why did you go begging them for a nap for next era then? :) I thought conquerors don't need naps. Or am i being naive again? :->


01:59:39 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

begging? i think you need to ask your friends how and why the nap was signed :)  *and im going to bed so flame all you like you will recive no more replys :)*


02:03:01 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Grumpyoldbastard:

I did Osi, i did :)

And btw when did i ever say DB was "leet" or anything remotely in that direction? All that was said if i read my stuff correctly is that we sort of handed you Legends ass back and that's it. :)

We claim no leetness as... well... why would we? LMAO :)


02:13:27 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Ghouma:

Someone who only wars PKS wins the era, what does that say about the system?


02:16:44 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

It says PKS can't stand up to DB.....


On a serious note: It says the whole "Blocker Pumping" isn't that great. Thats why Mantrax is here :D

02:20:17 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Sean Elderson:

Seriously the system does need an overhaul. Then maybe people would play other races besides dwarf.


02:42:25 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Condinho:

actually i did gave my colonies to legend, like 15h before the end of the era... some people just had more time to do it... so they won...

btw... hi raistlin

PS: remember me?

PPS: no? you biatch

PPPS: lol, just kidding

PPPPS: no, seriously remember me?

PPPPPS: still no, oh the agony... :((((


03:05:52 Feb 3rd 08 - Lord Crom:

congrats to the grumpyoldfarmer, congrats to the lgc-db team


03:18:00 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Grumpyoldbastard:

Condinho how could i not remember you? ;) *lick*
What are you doing running with these people? Go to a proper KD will you now? :) I mean ffs they took in Crom! :-D Thats even worse then me being teamed up with Ford (which is bad enough, i'll admit... but damn the guy grows on you *rollseyes* Roxy you were right! Hate you for it!)!


03:54:42 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Sloth:

We wont be using wall hop or crap so dont be insinuating we will be

Aligreat, is that a promise on behalf of DB? I have never seen an era go by without DB townswapping and wallhopping. Why would you change your tactics now?

Godlike? Music? are they even a Kingdom?

We don't let our enemies farm all era then take their mines in the last week. Admittedly, it worked very well for DB, using Legacy and Carnage as shields while their personal mining factory (PKS) built lots of nice 90ks for them. Maybe we should take note for next era?


04:25:25 Feb 3rd 08 - Ms. Erica Incarnate:

So this is Fantasia! ^^


04:44:41 Feb 3rd 08 - Lady Quietone:

I'm not gonna get into a flame war with you guys i know how much you love to but i'll leave it for the big boys...

I would just like to say first of all Osi and Sloth for you two whining on about us fighting pks i remember you not so long ago spending most of the era fighting them as well so you're hardly in a position to flame PKS.  They did a great job and we did struggle the first half of the era with half the kingdom being inactive and the entire era without our mages.  We lost several people this era and I did wait until the last few days to kick them, but that was well after Raist was trading top spot with Legend all on his own, I know he's been out of the game a while but his whoring capabilities are well....wtf...it's Raist :P iconic is the word maybe? hehe 

If you want to call that feeding that is well within your right to do so but we have never kicked anyone out of the kingdom just to secure a score and I didnt start now-  the people we removed were already gone.  Did raist get most of those towns yes, probably so, did it secure his win? I dont think so but I am also aware you did have ppl feeding legend their towns so that's hardly something to flame us for

Anyway our activity and warring did pick up the final part of the era and we had just started to tangle a bit with Phi, Zeon and Bow when the era was ending-  I am not going to make any excuses for that tho this was a holiday era but if you want to flame us that is fine we know we fought hard this era and that is enough for us.

I congratulate everyone on the top 10 and all the kds that lasted on fantasia the list seems to get smaller every era..... And to Abydos it's fine if you want to war us I expected you to regardless of the era outcome and we'll see you next era...


04:50:26 Feb 3rd 08 - Ms. Erica Incarnate:

Lady Quietone

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2/3/2008 11:44:41 AM

I'm not gonna get into a flame war with you guys i know how much you love to but i'll leave it for the big boys...


She did it anyway... :P


04:52:30 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Fire Nova:

LOL ya every kingdom will be much more active because of no more holidays


08:04:58 Feb 3rd 08 - Lord Weirdgrivi The Epyon:

I DIDNT READ ALL THIS BUT GO SUCK YOURSELVES CHEATING RIVER JUMPERS MAP HACKERS BT BUYERS KITTY RAPERS!!!!

P.S. : Quieteone SAX!

P.S. 2 : Qho is grumpyoldbiatxh?


09:07:35 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Penguin:

Grumpy => Raistlin


09:16:47 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Architect:









Whoops, seems my "ignorant" self has posted some screens showing multiple people leaving abydos and having their cities be taken over by Legend.

And I'm sorry for saying Lenard in my first post, but you know exactly what I meant, I read the name wrong, big whoop.  You're still really lame for doing this.


10:32:22 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Gothrim:

It is very clear to me that in future HoH top-player "victories" in Fantasia will be all about massive team-effort farmathons complete with town-feeding, era-long farming, pre-game decisions about who each kingdom's "candidate" will be, and so on.

Legend did everything right as an exceptional player who was also an active war-fighter and merge leader and who also gained a noted boost from the early conquest of some good Music mines, but otherwise Abydos made no special arrangements for him until the last two days when it was already too late. He carried on leading huge merges against Legacy till just a few days before the end--the troop maintenance costs must have been fantastic since even mine exceeded 10 million/tick. He deserved the era victory, but being deserving of it is clearly not enough. Warriors no longer win.

Next era Music will be on Mantrax and will be gaining at least 1 player from Legacy and 1 from Abydos. The player from Abydos will be me. Bye for now. :)


10:57:29 Feb 3rd 08 - Pirate Lewatha:

Architect, stop spewing your bs. around. You have about no clue what's happening. Please read up with all posts if you want to flame us correctly.

We never denied we haven't fed. But I believe that DB too has eaten off fellow kd. mates. So please, stop trying to flame us for it. Because our opponent has too.

Grumpy was better at it, so he wins.


11:02:10 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Crissxcross:

era has ended, no begins the real war :D

*goes to his personal armoury and searching the famethrower*


11:29:47 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

architect i dont remember anyone denying he took cities from people who left so whats your point exactly?


11:57:42 Feb 3rd 08 - Ms. Fellatio:

"He deserved the era victory, but being deserving of it is clearly not enough. Warriors no longer win."

No longer? When was the last time attackers won? 10 years ago maybe. That said please stop kissing Legend's ass, he farmed straight OOP, he was #1 on hoh weeks before I even saw an army from him, he farmed just like the others. Please stop the bull*beep*.


12:11:24 Feb 3rd 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

his boost wasnt farming :D he went top because he got the most gains from music and godlike. ofc he farmed a little. you cant compete if you dont boost your income at some point


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