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Any failed plunder or takeover nukes all pez in a city instantly (must have 1% chance or greater to be allowed to take the chance, 0% will prevent the attack). Siege, kamikaze, steal food, etc. do not follow this trend, they focus only on troops, pez remain untouched.

What do you mean you can't defend 200k because enemy can have 1%?

Jasmina — 04/17/2021

@Haldimir make sure you guys have someone for Arma

If you cant stop a 1% attack (which equates to 1/3 your power) before they reach max prep, that speaks more about you than the mechanics :P If an army has exactly a 1% at max, you should be able to kill said army easily, as you should have a 99% on it. If the enemy has closer to your power but takes the 1% the moment it is reached, Jas is right, thats legit suicide and few would do that. Cause remember: prep is still required to get that chance. 

A Human 200k is the hardest to prep. Make sure it has max walls (which doubles prep) and you will be more than safe :) Just ALWAYS have MUs and static troop defense in the city and this mechanic wont bite you

Does that happen in takeover fail or only plunder?

@Edi - it happens on any failed Takeover or Plunder. Both can cause total pez loss.

@NPC - I maintain that if the army has a 1% chance on you, why would you not hit it first? Literally means you would have a 99% chance against it, and at that high of a chance you lose practically nothing. And if hitting isnt an option for some impossible reason, have an allied mage locust the army? My only point is this hasnt been utilized in the past because it hasnt had value in doing. I do foresee this being a bigger deal for OOP fights now that more people know about it, and if you leave your 200k undefended I can see that being an easy way to cripple a Human (but once again, just defend the cities). In 99.9% of cases, a Human defending their 200k (or any race defending their large cities) you should easily be able to stop the 1% fail case. Only concern you should have are for proper armies failing at ~30% or more, but that would be the case anyways, which means this mechanic isnt to blame.

Long story short: this is all prevented with proper defense. If an enemy is near your city, work with your team to deal with the threat. Maybe have a mage AotD your city to gain free defense to pop the army. Freeze the army and have an ally slaughter. Probably hundreds of ways to deal with it, no reason to fret about the chance to lose it all. Just do something about it.

And a quick note in case it isnt know: if the die roll when attacking a city is more than 50% of your current chance, the entire army dies in the attack. Meaning if they have a 1% chance, rolling anything higher than 51% causes the entire army to die immediately. And the 1% case triggers when their OP is 1/3 of your DP, but only when proper prep is reached.

My apologies then, it had seemed like you were speaking "doom and gloom" that this would be a commonly exploited function and that Humans were basically shafted as a result. I was simply trying to dispel that and reinforce its quite easy to defend against. My bad if I came across more harsh than intended, was just trying to help show not all is lost :)

As for bouncing an army, if you hit at 99% chance, you will lose an incredibly small amount of troops to death and injury, hardly enough to blink an eye at. Its nothing like hitting an army at 50% chance and luck'ing-out a win. Your injuries are calculated based on the die rolled, and if you have a 99% chance, even a high roll wont damage you too bad as the enemy simply doesnt have the OP needed to deal damage back. All it takes is a low power AotD and a couple med sciences to not even feel the effect of it.

Of note for those who dont know: enemy DP determines your chance against the enemy, but their OP determines the damage they deal to you. Likewise, your OP determines the damage you do to them, with the die roll being a multiplier to this. Since an enemy with 1% on you means they have only 1/3 your power, that means you should have close to a 99% and nearly 2-3x their power, meaning losses are very light on your end. If you had 100k knights, might lose in total 10k to death and injury at max, but they may only have 5% of their total army not dead or injured after the hit. Assuming you dont slaughter.

if im defending from my 200k city and in dire situation, I would train almost all my peasants to MUs, cast AOTD in my city and suicide it to the attacking army.. again and again.

What do you mean?

I'm beothuk ! Beothuk Evil Ops  

But then, why did Team B agree to not fight MAD knowing they cooperate? 

Every Nap agreement consists of blockers being left closed for enemies of any kingdom, Mad opening blockers for enemy of Team B is a direct violation of standard Nap terms. Unles you did not have any agreements?

Towershine never blocked, that's why I was ordered to build another blocker, Sentry Post. So there was no opening of blockers on our side. Team B knew that my blockers doesn't block. Also, as far as my knowledge, we don't have any official relations with Team B, Aloy just told us that Team B expressed that they are friendly towards us.

You (4/15/2021 11:06:15 AM)
Does Towershine passable?
Mr. Tokugawa Leyasu (4/15/2021 2:38:12 PM)
The trees side is not blocked: The army is now on its way to the set location. It will take 8 day(s) to get there (if we force them to move faster).
Mr. Tokugawa Leyasu (4/15/2021 2:39:45 PM)
Can you help check our blockers too. This game bugs is killing us. lol
You (4/15/2021 4:14:37 PM)
I see. So the one made by Heorix in google chrome is accurate.
Mr. Tokugawa Leyasu (4/15/2021 4:32:47 PM)
Guss so. The gap is huge. 10% of the forest area.

Mr. Graybeard The Swift (4/30/2021 3:03:12 AM)
not attacking you in case you are wondering unless you come after me.

I don't wish to have negative relations with MaD - nostalgia and historic relationship goes a long way. However, those blockers being opened and then our re-settled cities being taken (without a warning - which would have been nice) hurt a little bit! 

Yeah that's fair enough, makes sense that it was a communication error - I wasn't aware that settling there would be a problem. I figured that we'd be safe in that area without being a burden in a core. 

Cheers man! We're a small kd but hopefully this map will give us some opportunity