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Fantasia Era 48
18:59:48 Jul 4th 10 - General Zondervan:

And you have still failed to show us the eits... that orc has NO MAGIC SCIENCE.

 


19:10:03 Jul 4th 10 - Mr. Admirable:

"You know better than many, that RoC doesn't like to be considered "Sacrificial Lambs"."


RoC seems to be under the impression that RoC has ever had a choice in the matter...?


19:11:07 Jul 4th 10 - Sir Mcmax The Wizzard:

No Aloysius.

We had a written NAP with Fate. We didn't have one with DOA. Only a CF without conditions (except a 48 hours notice for cancelling).

There is a difference. And you know it, else you wouldn't have written as you did.

You had more than enough time to read the fant-thread and to gather other kind of information from the moment I did as I did and posted it - and to when you wrote in forum.


19:14:14 Jul 4th 10 - Mr. Path:

Aloysius, obviously they would favor a NAP partner over an unconditional CF partner...wouldn't you?  NAP agreements often say you are required to open city gates for the NAP partner with the lone exception being if the target kingdom is also a NAP partner.  The target  DOA was not a NAP partner, and therefore, that doesn't apply?

I really have no "angle" in this little discussion, but thats how I would understand the scenario to have gone. 


19:16:43 Jul 4th 10 - Sir Mcmax The Wizzard:

No Admirable.

Actually we are used to be at war with Fate. And to be kicked. But we still did take up the fight. Every time.

Last age was the first time we survived a Fate attack and even made an agreement with them.


19:17:40 Jul 4th 10 - General Zondervan:

Yes a NAP is higher than a CF, but still doesnt mean anything. If how hes saying it is true.

Then lets use the current era to provide example, DOA is fighting FATE. FEAR wants to fight DOA also. How would FEAR feel if FATE got a CF with DOA. and then opened blockers for DOA to come and kill FEAR?

Different now that its your kingdom...


19:23:09 Jul 4th 10 - Mr. Jack Daniels:

ok mate relax i think what max did was a good idea and i wasnt even there when this shit went down i also think that both of you should stop arguing over something that has almost no importance as it cant be changed and guys this is a damn war game who gives a shit who declared war on who just finish the damn fight and thats about all i'm gonna say for now so have fun guys


19:23:48 Jul 4th 10 - Lady Quietone:

The real point is that ROC jumped into relations with both kds- and as such should have held a neutral stance- ROC was well aware we never had any intentions otherwise- we had been in war the entire era up until that point- they spawned next to us oop we killed them and they respawned next to us on the other side.  We moved over to continue the war and realized that they were also getting hit by FATE-  When we spoke to ROC we made it very clear that our intention was to allow them to fight their other enemy.    Now regardless of the official name of the arrangement we had -- both kingdoms knew the intent behind it and then ROC went and nap'd fate approximately at the same time-- so thereby not bothering to give us a chance or the respect to say hey we're going to nap FATE -- they made an arrangement with FATE to open blockers for them knowing we had no idea or giving us any opportunity to set up a defensive situation against FATE..

however you wanna to hash it out it was a shady move by a small kd trying to stay alive and thus pretty much cant be trusted.  Now it was last era its over...no reason to rehash it :P

 


19:27:16 Jul 4th 10 - Mr. Aloysius:

I agree, NAP is higher than CF. But before they allow the spell to be casted, is it more honorable or rather appealing to hear that you inform DOA about it too? An apology may suffice but instead you justified your actions without any regrets about the CF you made to DOA.

Its like you made a truce with your enemy but secretly asking others to hit them for you.


19:31:23 Jul 4th 10 - Mr. Aloysius:

In my eyes, what ROC did last era is unhonorable.

Anyway... let's just move on and get back to the topic. FANTASIA ERA 48. :)

*grabs popcorn, too*


20:30:10 Jul 4th 10 - Sir Mcmax The Wizzard:

LOL Aloysius.

I still take you first replay as the most valid. It was honerable and by the way, it was the best move I could do.

But as you write, let it end here.

Just with my last reply (presuming it DOES end here).

I take it on my shoulders. I do stand by my decision and have no regrets. My honor is intact and so is the honor of my kingdom. I'm in no doubt at all.


20:52:54 Jul 4th 10 - Mr. Path:

"Then lets use the current era to provide example, DOA is fighting FATE. FEAR wants to fight DOA also. How would FEAR feel if FATE got a CF with DOA. and then opened blockers for DOA to come and kill FEAR?

Different now that its your kingdom..."

No zond, its not different now that its my kingdom.  Its different because you have it 100% backwards. *sigh* Your example would be Fate opening blockers to let a CF partner come through to kill a NAP partner.  Which is completely opposite.  Do you get what Im saying?  I don't have time today to draw a diagram in paint : (

An accurate comparison would be if Fear was unconditionally CF with Fate....and fate NAP doa.  THEN yes, fate could open gates and we would be screwed.  The terms of most NAP agreements say you have to open blockers unless the party behind the blocker is NAP partners with your NAP partner...in which case, the blocker stays closed.

FOR INSTANCE-
Last round we had a NAP with ROC....the NAP stated they(and we) are to open blockers for the NAP partner.  So, we(FEAR) could ask them to open gates to let us at DOA as long as they arent NAP with DOA.  IF they NAP DOA, then we cannot ask them to open the blocker because that would break the terms of their NAP with DOA.

Its very simple, I don't know how you folks cannot understand it.  Kingdoms are so afraid of making NAPs out of fear of being called a NAP whore, so they make little worthless CFs.  These worthless CF only state they wont fight each other without X amount of hours warning.  It states NOTHING ELSE.  You cannot count on a CF partner to keep gates closed unless you specify as much in the agreement with them.  I don't care about the vocabulary of the deal in place, you can call it a CF, a NAP, a MAP, whatever the heck you want.  Blockers being opened or closed needs to be discussed in the terms from the beginning.

22:18:55 Jul 4th 10 - Dreadlord Valarion:

We all know it's Quietones fault! :D

 

<3 Q


22:29:53 Jul 4th 10 - Judge Kobuskan:

Can you please continue this in topic Fantasia era 47


00:06:18 Jul 5th 10 - Mr. Petite Penois:

The lengths people go to in order to undermine DoA's supremacy. gosh.


00:51:38 Jul 5th 10 - Master Orrises:

;


01:10:04 Jul 5th 10 - Master Orrises:



Made by me


01:11:05 Jul 5th 10 - Dr. Evil Smevil:

I have seen Z and that isn't Z


01:37:17 Jul 5th 10 - Mr. Glad The Bloody:


@ Arthur - shall we take that as a wear declaration?

Ravage Regime16Sir Levi53
Legion Under Leaving Zondervan34General Zondervan100
vs.
Gladiators22Mr. Glad The Bloody62


01:40:46 Jul 5th 10 - General Zondervan:

Im on facebook and i believe the guide page, now if you could remove the picture of yourself and use it elsewhere. Thanks.

 

haha wear decleration! yes. we shall wear you! wear your blood!!!!!!! :P Just Kidding Glad :)

I believe war starts if someone kills the other army.


02:10:08 Jul 5th 10 - Mr. Glad The Bloody:

oo I haven't seen so many jocks and so much talk from you in many eras...



02:47:32 Jul 5th 10 - General Zondervan:

Its been a while hasnt it. I cant remember how long, but a long time for sure :)


04:30:46 Jul 5th 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

Don't teleport my cities Glad! >:(


04:35:50 Jul 5th 10 - Mr. Glad The Bloody:

I wont Arthur, that spell is very dangerous to us


04:36:15 Jul 5th 10 - Mr. Glad The Bloody:

'use', I mean


05:13:07 Jul 5th 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

That's a good thing ;)


09:34:58 Jul 5th 10 - Sir Nicks Last Era Ofvu:

But when has something very dangerous ever stopped us before, so maybe we will get someone else to cast instead of Glad this time have fun Arthur : D


09:40:38 Jul 5th 10 - Sir Ryan The Archion IV:

Just an update:

Mad and Dangerous13Mr. Aloysius


Vs.

Ravage Regime16Sir Levi
Legion Under Leaving Zondervan34General Zondervan

Music20Lord Gilth


Music just inform our super gigantic KD that they will as well attack us.

We really love war this era. LOL! :P


12:18:13 Jul 5th 10 - Dr. Evil Smevil:

Music is busy.  They attacked us also  :P


13:27:15 Jul 5th 10 - Sir Ryan The Archion IV:

I see it. How about we gangbang them? LOL! :P


13:57:34 Jul 5th 10 - Lady Cao The Kozachoker:

click on history to see your logs.


14:28:46 Jul 5th 10 - Dr. Evil Smevil:

Im not positive but I think MAD struck first Sir Ryan.  Not that it really matters it will be a fun war.  :)


16:11:25 Jul 5th 10 - Ice Prince Zephyr:

Glads striked us first aswell with MAD =(


16:14:40 Jul 5th 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

00:34:58 Jul 5th 10 - Sir Nicks Last Era Ofvu:

But when has something very dangerous ever stopped us before, so maybe we will get someone else to cast instead of Glad this time have fun Arthur : D



Good thing I have a lot of cities.  It would be too hard for you to teleport them all... right?....


00:31:48 Jul 6th 10 - Lady Cao The Kozachoker:

hey ICE PRINCE, strike first?  You mean we attacked you after your MAP partner declared war on us.


00:49:22 Jul 6th 10 - Clown Wankin Between Ticks:

LING TONG


01:03:05 Jul 6th 10 - Mr. Jango Fett:

Guan Yu?


01:21:12 Jul 6th 10 - Mr. Glad The Bloody:

It doesnt matter who striked first - both sides were aware there will be war (talking about Glads and Lozl+ RR); now it has started - let's see how it will end


01:25:27 Jul 6th 10 - General Zondervan:

It shall be a tough war thats for sure, and just to go ahead so their is no whining (not that glad ever whines). All of Lulz is not fighting Glads, and not all of RR are fighting Glads. Its only a hand full. Probably same in numbers even.

Lets have a nice war shall we guys!


05:42:16 Jul 6th 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

I concur.  This war will be challenging for the people fighting :D

MAD... I was just kidding with that city name!  You don't have to attack me! ... :(


13:15:29 Jul 6th 10 - Lady Cao The Kozachoker:

nice wars?  who came up with that idea.  there are no nice wars.  thanks for the laugh.


13:23:34 Jul 6th 10 - Dr. Evil Smevil:

Maybe he meant this part of the definition

7.refined in manners, language, etc.
8.virtuous; respectable; decorous


14:20:55 Jul 6th 10 - Lady Cao The Kozachoker:

fair enough.  I will be nice in victory or defeat.


14:23:09 Jul 6th 10 - Mr. Vencrow:

I demand a bday present! :(


15:25:06 Jul 6th 10 - General Zondervan:

Yes hes right, i meant lets fight and keep it at that. Not this flaming bs here. :)


15:56:20 Jul 6th 10 - Wolflord Karac:

Habby b-day ven :)


15:57:36 Jul 6th 10 - Lady Godiva:

13:23:09 Jul 6th 10 - Mr. Vencrow:

I demand a bday present! :(


I already gave you yours.


16:58:47 Jul 6th 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

05:23:09 Jul 6th 10 - Mr. Vencrow:

I demand a bday present! :(



Didn't I spank one of your scouts?  As a present I'll let you spank mine ;)


20:17:09 Jul 6th 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

11:06:28: Finding Endless lost a battle against Shoo from Mr. Vencrow. The army retreated to Keepers Dale. We lost 0 Farmers, 0 Slingers, 1 Pony riders, 0 Illusionists and 0 Adventurers and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.


Happy birthday! :D


21:24:56 Jul 6th 10 - Endless Dream:

<3 Vencrow

a ha ha ha Arthur :p


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