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Latha 12 Perhaps
09:35:12 Sep 22nd 12 - Mr. Dracula:

I dont know why people complain that there are no new players in the game, or maybe people are not honest about their previous experience in the game, but both my Kingdoms on Latha and Midgard are full of new players, or at least they say they are. And considering we are doing quite ok in both worlds, they will all stay in the game, always a good thing.


Some kingdoms would not accept new players till they reach a certain level of skill, but with guidance they can be very good what ever role they have. For example here on Latha my Kingdom was attacked by two very strong armies, I had to take care of them both but could not without the help of my new players. Thank you to SuperBad for giving us opportunity to plan our first defensive tactic, they came with two very strong armies, the second one being very dangerous. Would like to congratulate to our mage who managed to keep the enemy army frozen for 15 hours giving us enough time to gather defenses and prepare to kick off the enemy army we were not able to kick back when it came. If we did not have magic that army would still be in our core taking cities. And when I went to kick back the enemy our mage tells me that anger is at 70%, so with that I managed to completely slaughter the army that I first thought would give us so much trouble. 

And with this I will end my monologue, I apologize I am also a new player with just a few eras of experience and a veteran guide that I listen to. Its this times that I am happy cause of the good outcome of a battle, wanted to share that :) Oh and be nice to new players, they are what will make the game more interesting for everyone.


11:44:21 Sep 22nd 12 - Mr. Morgan:

I will kill Gohan if he do not stop attack my armies.


16:05:09 Sep 22nd 12 - Arwyn (Ms. Arya Stark):

ahhh  Mr. Dracula, such wise words. I would say them myself but that takes so much effort and time lol. You are very correct though and the "with guidance, they can become very good in whatever role....". My kingdom is based on that fact! I'm glad there are others out there that think the same way :)


21:10:25 Sep 23rd 12 - SFD (Duke Some Fcked Dude):

how sad is it that this is the best forum i have read in months of reading these SH!T forums :D

i say Zond makes an elite team to liven up other forums (as i dont play i need something to read)..


21:35:57 Sep 23rd 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

lol


i like the forums :P they rock!


21:42:02 Sep 23rd 12 - SFD (Duke Some Fcked Dude):

yeh if you mean rock as in lay dormant for millions of years then one day get scrapped to build a wall or something.


21:51:19 Sep 23rd 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

xD cant help i was inactive.


but also... seems that i like, uh. bounced back the armies 0.o 

next stop, retake my cities :))


21:53:50 Sep 23rd 12 - SFD (Duke Some Fcked Dude):

lol that wasnt a jab at you getting your stuff taken that was at the forums for being so dead :P

i know nothing of VU now days "D


22:14:41 Sep 23rd 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

oh i know ^^


but just wanted to gloat that im alive :PP AND beat that army lol


23:30:35 Sep 23rd 12 - Arwyn (Ms. Arya Stark):

Latha's forum is the most exciting thing to hit VU since...........


11:54:37 Sep 24th 12 - SFD (Duke Some Fcked Dude):

.......i started playing VU......wait...or was it stopped playing VU o_O

and Zond i heard you got bum fcked while you were away but dont tell anyone i told you "D

 

 


12:43:21 Sep 24th 12 - Mr. Gohan:

You are mean Morgan :(


19:40:06 Sep 24th 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

hahaha :P was having fun else where :P


10:44:22 Sep 26th 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

Your character Mr. Bohning is the 3rd most powerful ruler in Latha

:O


12:52:42 Sep 26th 12 - Arwyn (Ms. Arya Stark):

congrats!


16:15:52 Sep 26th 12 - Mr. Zombie:

Looks like the world will become super interesting now, everyone for themselves, let there be blood everywhere, flesh to be eaten, feast for my troops. Let the hunger games begin, my zombies, soon is the feeding time.


18:51:48 Sep 26th 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

THANKYOU!


Its been super interesting :p


00:23:23 Sep 27th 12 - Mr. Gohan:

hey... ive been quietly farming :)


13:01:02 Sep 27th 12 - Mr. Warwick:

I'M SO JELLY OF UR FARM GOHAN >.< HAVE MY BABIES!!!!


14:18:09 Sep 27th 12 - Mr. Merlin The Magi:

  1. Mr. Merlin The Magi has won 0 battles, captured 0 cities and killed a total of 83597 men and women



But I set fire to the rain,
Watched it pour as I touched your face,
Well, it burned while I cried
'Cause I heard it screaming out your name, your name!




19:40:59 Sep 30th 12 - Mr. Zombie:

Would you all agree that 1 vs 1 vs 1 is the best and most interesting :)


Kingdoms in Latha
House Stark10Ms. Arya Stark117
Undead7Mr. Dracula100
SuperBad6Mr. Warwick90


23:10:45 Sep 30th 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

Yes if maybe it happened sooner, rather than later..


05:31:56 Oct 4th 12 - Arwyn (Ms. Arya Stark):

This world is like WWI lol. Both sides are too scared to advance even though I feel Stark has been the "aggressor" if there was one lol. But then again, you don't get anywhere by just standing around :)


10:48:34 Oct 4th 12 - Mr. Morgan:

11:12:18 Oct 4th 12 - Mr. Zombie:

Haha that is great :D Very funny!

And also good job kicking me back :)
Was very interesting :) good looking army
Will be very delicious later on I am sure :)


20:09:15 Oct 4th 12 - Mr. Fouronenine:

ZOMBIE MADE A PROMISE TO ME THE OTHER DAY!

Will he do as he promised? Or is he dishonorable scumb of the earth?


13:21:32 Oct 6th 12 - Mr. Merlin The Magi:

First it was too warm, fire from the sky everywhere
People getting killed, armies burning...

In the meantime climate changed
And now its cold... armies get frozen
Waste time and make people frustruated...
And they complain...

Mr. Morgan (10/6/2012 2:13:00 PM) GOOD BAD
Why dont u freeze fight tha powah? I hope it will be me who will pillage your lands and not anybody else. *Cross mah fingers n hope to die*


I dont know what to do guys...
Its not good if its warm and fires everywhere
Its not good when its cold and ice everywhere...




17:34:04 Oct 6th 12 - Mr. Morgan:

Merlin take your weak trolling somewhere else. WEAK i tell you.
We dont want hot and we dont want cold, WE LIVE IN THE TEMPERATE ZONE OF LATHA.


18:15:03 Oct 6th 12 - Mr. Merlin The Magi:

Well you gotta love our chats :D





Mr. Morgan (10/6/2012 3:02:39 PM)GOODBAD
NO MONEY, NO MAGIC!!!!!!!! And that is the reason why ur kingdom is doomed in the long run i think. Seeing as we are only comitting a fraction of our resources to fight you and the rest on increasing our income, whilst you are using all ur money on huge upkeep costs for thoose armies ofyers just running around to diffrent sides of your core.

You (10/6/2012 4:15:21 PM)
Wishful thinking is the formation of beliefs and making decisions according to what might be pleasing to imagine instead of by appealing to evidence, rationality, or reality.
Mr. Morgan (10/6/2012 4:26:13 PM)GOODBAD
Grandiose delusions is a subtype of delusional disorder that occurs in patients suffering from a wide range of mental illnesses, including two-thirds of patients in manic state of bipolar disorder, half of those with schizophrenia and a substantial portion of those with substance abuse disorders
You (10/6/2012 7:14:28 PM)
ig·nore (g-nôr, -nr)
tr.v. ig·nored, ig·nor·ing, ig·nores
To refuse to pay attention to; disregard.


18:45:58 Oct 6th 12 - Mr. Morgan:

Hey that was private! I dont want the general public to know that i am suffering from grandios delusion!!


13:33:21 Oct 9th 12 - Arwyn (Ms. Arya Stark):


Mr. Bohning (10/8/2012 10:46:33 PM)GOODBAD
will you fight me, or shall you sit there behind your walls.




Said by the ruler whose lost 80% of their core and never really advance towards us lol


13:58:48 Oct 9th 12 - Mr. Zombie:

Congratulations to Stark Kingdom for winning the era
Its not over yet, but seing as we were back stabbed by Harkaa and his friends, its obvious that 3 people can not defend against entire Kd. But I must say I am surprised by such a veteran player to leave a Kd in middle of war and join enemy side. That is something you would not expect from an experienced player.

Congrats to Morgan for putting up a good fight, and wish you all good rest of the era.


16:44:12 Oct 9th 12 - Arwyn (Ms. Arya Stark):

Mr. Zombie, you should have seen this world last era. It was by far the most inactive era I've ever been a part of lol. I'm glad to see kingdoms being competitive in Latha. Good luck to the rest of the era to everyone!


17:34:29 Oct 9th 12 - Mr. Zombie:

Well for this era Undead are done competing.

We are going to another world, already have it all planned.
Everyone enjoy the rest of the era.


17:49:48 Oct 9th 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

Actually i went AFK for 2 days due to rl, but then again you cant read.. or you would have known that days ago. Plus i did advance to the blocker.. and it took 3 of your armies to beat me back after i had lost my army and income.. that is the sad part.


You can claim you didnt all you want, but Edd wouldnt attack until both your armies arrived just incase he lost hitting me at the low percent, but he ended up getting it. Reason i had such low losses. :)

Not to mention, the only reason you guys got in, was because our mage is completely new and not that active, you still havent tried taking none of my cities.. nor the mages main... 

So please tell me again why you havent? Maybe its because some players left Undead..and you NAPed/CFed them LOL.

Oh and just me defending the whole time after being backstabbed by your kd.. thats the reason many new players stop playing this game. I was here to teach and you guys backstabbed and went in to kill players who just started. Great tactics, feed on the new players then go in for the kill on the other kd who has more exp. 


18:16:59 Oct 9th 12 - Arwyn (Ms. Arya Stark):

your right Zond , I don't read!! Grats!


18:18:49 Oct 9th 12 - Arwyn (Ms. Arya Stark):

I dont recall remembering any backstabs? o.O

Even if we did, its all part of the game. It happens to everyone, including us and including kd's like LGCY, MAD, and whoever else you want to throw in the mix. If people can't understand that then I guess they can't handle playing the game


18:21:03 Oct 9th 12 - Zond (The Defiant One):

Point is, you backstabbed then had the nerve to ask my kd for a CF when Undead attacked you. Thats the funny part >:) 


18:43:28 Oct 9th 12 - Legend (I am The Forgotten Legend):

Zond is a bitch dont listen to him


18:44:45 Oct 9th 12 - Zond (The Defiant One):

Hey thats suppose be private!


19:02:22 Oct 9th 12 - LukeTheDuke (Mr. Eddard Stark):

Point is, you backstabbed then had the nerve to ask my kd for a CF when Undead attacked you. Thats the funny part >:) 



Whoah whoah whoah, backstabbing? This is a serious accusation. At what point did we have any relations with your kingdom? We offered a CF because we declared war on you. And you were losing. Zombie ended their NAP, and we had other problems to contend with. You declined the CF and we went on with killing you. If we had a era long NAP/regular NAP, MAP or BloodPact. And then we decided to attack you without warning, then i would accept that accusation. But we didn't we have any relations with your kingdom. There is no dishonor in asking a CF regardless of the fact we were attacking a kingdom with new players in it. We had new players in our kingdom as well, so what. 

The whole point in growing as a player is learning from your mistakes. If you can't handle that, or you refuse to accept your defeat with dignity, then i can not see you becoming a powerful/great kingdom. I am not saying we are "great and powerful" but if we lose a war, i would hope that we would have the foresight and maturity to recognize our mistakes and build upon our strategy. If you sit there and farm all era, you aren't learning strategy or learning how to be a powerful kingdom, you are learning how to become farmers. 

I hope your mage learned that being a mage in a kingdom requires activity, and that if he/she doesn't have the time to play that role, then he/she should choose a different race that accentuates his or her playing style.

I even encouraged one of your players in strategy, and he used that to his advantage. 

You saying we backstabbed your kingdom is an empty insult, and warrants your ability of leadership to be questioned. There are a few guides on being a leader, and i suggest you read them. You could very well be a good leader. And I am sure you are a great player, had you the time to get on VU. I hope you don't think of me as condescending or negative. I am simply defending my own, and I am encouraged that we have a community here in VU that enjoys taking on new players and showing them how to play the game. And i hope that you continue in that, and not be put off from playing next era on Latha. 


19:04:57 Oct 9th 12 - Legend (I am The Forgotten Legend):

Luke are you the new Barny? Wall of text everywhere?


19:10:32 Oct 9th 12 - LukeTheDuke (Mr. Eddard Stark):

Never watched the show, wouldn't know. :P


19:11:29 Oct 9th 12 - Zond (The Defiant One):

The dishonor lies in where, at the start. 


I receive a message from you saying you arent going to attack me. Then as soon as i engage Undead, you attack me.. Lulz.

Ha new players, dumb as a rock. 


19:40:34 Oct 9th 12 - LukeTheDuke (Mr. Eddard Stark):



Mr. Bohning (9/13/2012 9:02:48 AM)
Not attacking you guys.
You (9/13/2012 9:10:08 AM)
same. i am going after fire and ice.
Mr. Bohning (9/13/2012 9:12:16 AM)
those other guys undead attacked me.
You (9/13/2012 9:12:43 AM)
oh yeah? how did that happen?
Mr. Bohning (9/13/2012 9:20:14 AM)
i moved a scout over night, and it landed on there city i am told. and that i was attacking with it lol. funny. its impossible to take a city with a halfling scout. farmers have 0 OP (offensive points).
You (9/13/2012 9:21:17 AM)
seems like the same thing happened to your scout that was in our core. how do we know you won't attack us?
Mr. Bohning (9/13/2012 9:23:12 AM)
The scout i had near you is in the city i built, its just guard towers for LOS.

I wont, i am a guide, here to train new players (all my kd members). I told Undead i wouldnt attack them even if my kd was warring them unless they attacked me. And here they are doing so.



Mr. Bohning (9/14/2012 8:25:41 PM)
You plan on attacking?
You (9/14/2012 11:07:57 PM)
No, just setting up a blocker.
Mr. Bohning (9/14/2012 11:10:16 PM)
ah, just making sure.


13:56:45 Sep 16th 12 - Ms. Anarchy:
Magic
Casting Eye in the sky from Salema upon Lie Wait with 81% chance of success... and Successful!
Through the eye we can see this information about Lie Wait, owned by Mr. Bohning:
Farmers:2
Slingers:0
Pony riders:15245
Illusionists:3061
Adventurers:0
Peasants:967
Wreckages:0
Homes:3040
Farms:0
Mines:0
Magic Towers:0
Guard Towers:1763
Taverne:0
Lumber Mills:0
Armories:7500
Warehouses:0
Walls:80

Armies in the city: 0(Total of 0 men)

We lost 35 Spellweavers and 47 of your magic towers got destroyed in explosions.


After 48 we decided that after having a city built in one of our cores, and having two armories built 20 scout ticks from our main core, looking at most of your members on the HoH list and seeing a division moving west towards us, did we decide that it was in our best interests to engage you in battle.

In those messages that were sent between you and me, which was ALL the communication between us two,none of what i said meant that we wouldn't EVER attack you. You took what i said out of context completely. Setting up a blocker wasn't agrressiveness towards your kingdom per-se, and when i had armies moving towards fireandice, you messaged me saying you had no intention of attacking me, and i simply replied with information regarding what exactly i had been doing at the time.

As you can see, we didn't NAP eachother, nothing from what i said warranted that you would even think that i NAP'ed you.

I still see no substance to these accusations of backstabbing.

Further, you were the one on BOTH accounts that messaged me first.

Nothing in what i did was dishonorable.


19:58:59 Oct 9th 12 - LukeTheDuke (Mr. Eddard Stark):

11:15:00 Sep 14th 12 - LukeTheDuke (Mr. Eddard Stark):

Long Travel

Army Info
Commander:Mr. BohningKingdom Banner
Kingdom:SuperBad
Size:Division (10,000-20,000)
Race:Halfling
Status:Moving West

We have not attacked them and they have not attacked us.

This ruler owns a bit more land than we do.

Attacking this army will count as a hostile attack and will make it possible for Mr. Bohning to attack us.



 


"After 48 hours we decided" if you look at the dates, you will understand.


20:05:41 Oct 9th 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

LOL If funny because, you say that. yet our armies had left our armories and were prepping on Undead cities when you engaged us up north.. there was no threat to you. You just didnt have the balls to fight Undead with a split core, so you waited until our armies left to attack :))


20:12:44 Oct 9th 12 - LukeTheDuke (Mr. Eddard Stark):

You are blowing smoke, and obviously upset that you lost the war. Its called diplomatic strategy, and every nation in history has done that. There is no dishonor in it. You could have done something different in the way you handled Undead. And neither am i or house stark responsible for Undead's actions, or your own. So keep the smack talk coming. I could do this all day.


20:14:46 Oct 9th 12 - Zond (Mr. Bohning):

Upset, you must know me. If i was upset as you say, id do wat ppl say i do..and just forum ban you and delete your posts. Obviously im no upset and typing stuff at you while you waste time typing pages and pages to my few words. ;)


Btw, still waiting.. you have yet to try and attack.. for all that talk of me not engaging. 


21:30:05 Oct 9th 12 - Mr. Dracula:

It is a fact that Visual Utopia is a game of war, tactic, magic and diplomacy. You can win eras in any of the ways, or with a combination of all, usually people say a kingdom that kills every enemy kingdom on the map is considered as the most honorable and respectable winner.

Kingdom Stark is using diplomacy too much to win, but its their right to use it, as its a part of the game. As soon as we started the era they sent me an offer to NAP, so we accepted as I was told that Zondervan is one of the most skilled people in the game, and they said the same. So idea is to work together.

Then suddenly Stark went quiet and did nothing, while we prepared for war, sure we killed scouts but the idea was to war them, no other plans were made. In the meanwhile we noticed Stark pretty much did nothing as SuperBad went to our core with armies, we sent them couple of messages and they assured us that they are on our side and that they war SuperBad. Now I see that they actually told them they will not attack, just like we suspected. After SuperBad went to our core blockers, we killed their strong armies and pretty much kept asking Stark to do some helping as that was the idea at era start.

Then they started the attack, and we regrouped and waited to her info from Stark. When SuperBad attacked us we were giving info to Stark where enemy is and we coordinated defenses, but when they went up north they gave us no info. After they did a couple of advances and broke some of enemy defenses, we asked what is the situation like, and started sending armies. Right away Stark sent message that we should pull back because Gohan is attacking... Later we found out that guy is very inactive and he never went anywhere. So the idea was that Stark takes down SuperBad and keeps us in our core, with no war spoils.

That was the main reason why we decided to end our NAP, as Stark was not doing what we agreed in the beginning, there was no cooperation. If all went to plan, we would be advancing alot more now in enemy teritory but good move from Gohan and enemy armies running around our core made us not able to go far away, cause frankly we have too many new people, and it was just 2 or 3 people with actual armies, so it was not possible to defend the area we have for our core, as its in middle of the map, we always have to cover all sides.

I would like to ask the winning side to grant safe era end to Harkaa and his people he is brining from another game, all new people and it would be good if they survive and stay in the game. Though I hope he will teach them that leaving a kingdom in middle of war is a huge no in this game and it should never be done under no circumstances.

I am sorry for the long text, just wanted to sum up the era from our point of view, obviously we will all have our points of views. But I must say that I am proud of the new players we have. Zombie's 2nd era and playing like a boss, Merlin's 1st era and already getting hatemail, that is an accomplishment. Thank you all again for a nice and interesting era, The Undead will be moving to another world now.


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