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Starta 8
16:47:25 Aug 8th 11 - Haldimir (Mr. Haldimir IV The Mercenary):

I agree on that, It's boring to those who died like my KD, it's a fail because I had recruited players that is not too active and also cornered by 3 kds on all directions. 


Revising my post about boring. It's boring in the later age of starta because OC is sweeping all enemies in their path. 


It's fun for us (the mercenaries) in the earlier part of the era because we had to defend and watch our borders in all directions. defending on the other side while fighting on the other side... I've really wished that it last long that other KD's still alive for a nice war scene. 


We're gonna be up next age.


18:23:43 Aug 10th 11 - Mr. Dark Water:

It's been a good era IMO; I felt we (Time to Adventure) had a chance at victory, but failed thanks to your very active Orc players. I had forgotten the biggest disadvantage playing dwarf: they are slow. =/

Anihow, I do look forward to playing on this map again.... we just need Arma cast. We'll be dead well before it goes off, but I don't think anyone can cast it. >_>


02:08:26 Aug 11th 11 - Haldimir (Mr. Haldimir The Breaker):

Yaa,, really need to finish this era... anyone that can cast arma?


02:36:18 Aug 11th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

Might have to bug the admin. :P


03:24:44 Aug 11th 11 - Haldimir (Mr. Haldimir):

tell the admin to finish the era... no one can cast arma..


03:36:50 Aug 11th 11 - Ms. Elisa Day:

Its not necessary to wait for era to end with the arma actually, there's that vote thing going on now, so if most people vote yes, world just ends without waiting long :) We had that on Latha, so its not bad, lets finish the world fast :)


16:07:21 Aug 11th 11 - Haldimir (Mr. Haldimir The Breaker):

k.. let's start the voting process...


16:57:46 Aug 11th 11 - Tyrin (Mr. Tyrin):

It didnt let me vote. . . . . .


22:27:59 Aug 11th 11 - Mr. Dark Water:

I voted yes, but there are still 14 players who haven't voted. Probably too many inactive scouts on the map. >_>

Currently 13 people wants the age to end, 3 does not, and 14 people has not voted.


07:40:03 Aug 12th 11 - ZeTa (VU Admin):

I've now reset the votes!


22:39:47 Aug 12th 11 - Mr. Dark Water:

Thanks... but:

Currently 10 people wants the age to end, 3 does not, and 13 people has not voted.

So we went from 30 people to 26.

Kingdoms in Starta
Optimus Consilium7Mr. Snoopy1114
Time to Adventure7Mr. Toad100
Legion of Roma2Mr. Julius Caesar15
Odins last stand7Mr. Dragontest7
Leather Rebels2Mr. Mad Max II The Warrior5

And we have 25 people who still "exist" on the HOH boards. Is there any way to exclude those rulers who don't have a city on the map?  We have at least two people who are all but dead in our KD and have stopped logging on... and that is just within our KD.


21:44:52 Aug 13th 11 - Ms. Elisa Day:

Come on end it :) we all voted for Yes
Only a few without cities havent logged on any more...

Currently 14 people wants the age to end, 3 does not, and 10 people has not voted.





23:47:56 Aug 13th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

Because of how bunked the hoh system is. I think this shortened arma is enough... so that those who really did go out and kick some ass for a lot of that land at least have a chance to get on top. :P


00:33:22 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Dark Water:

On top? Every HOH member is from the same KD: the only one left! Let arma go off and we can start anew.


01:29:20 Aug 14th 11 - Ms. Elisa Day:

He's just pointing out that Gladiatorul should not win the era and that i should not be nbr 4 in the end. Sure both of us did less then Orc and Troll people but that is because of the situation. I was ordered to stay behind and wait for Orcs and Troll to hit all big armies, and Glad had two fronts he had to defend.

Not to mention Glad singlehandedly killed Leather Rebels, nobody helped him there, and I stopped Zonds army that was going in the Kd core when nobody else had no chance against that army when our blocker was CWed, I risked hitting at low percentage.

Halfers are the ones that made it possible for Orcs and Trolls to farm up their huge armies and to take the era win I guess. I sincerelly dont care about the HoHs, if I could I would give my spot to anyone who wants...




01:55:35 Aug 14th 11 - Tyrin (Mr. Tyrin):

lol, Thats not entirely true. As an orc, I ate LR last era with twice their members, and just because I didnt deal with zondys army doesnt mean I couldnt have.

You were just the one all about running and gunning instead of working on your income because you said you flat out didnt want to. We know how we play, and what we do works for us, sorry if we arnt the type to burn ourselfs out fast.

And were ordered to? I honestly dont pay much attention to the forums since we are supposed to be a actively communicating via skype kd, but you were the one giving everyone grief over not moving, then when we knew it was the right time to attack, you gave us grief for moving out. . . . .   

Look at it and believe what you want, but our way of doing things hasnt failed us much yet.  The hoh last era ended up with our kd on the top just like this one, and those two halfers that supposedly were the reason for this one were not there :P They also were not there in our roots when we dominated the last few eras of zeta before gw and merges. 

Im not going to say you didnt do your part, you did well taking the initiative oop where it seems the majority of VUers are weak, but given our past performance since we assembled this particular group, our success to loss ratio is exceptional. So please dont act like we couldnt have done it without you :P

And letting the arma tick down like it always has just makes it more like the VU I have always known. The 100 tick arma was a nice balace considering the condition of the map, but instantly ending would suck right now since there is still a TTA dwarf with a decent army I would like to see if I can race the arma clock and Kor to >:)


02:06:13 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

Well well... someone read what I said the wrong way. lol........ 


02:24:39 Aug 14th 11 - Ms. Elisa Day:

Tyrin, I just did some research on our forums, found the time when we were in problems, core breached and defending team were Ery, you and me, I posted what we had in the blocker and realised we have no chance, Ery's army was too weak, mine too... but I went for suicide attack and got lucky
You had 12k Gaia, 24k Ogre and 888 Naz, I had 115k Ponies then.
Thats 346k your power and I had 690k Power and had only 45% on Zondy, so saying you could have stopped him is just lame.

My bad choise of words when saying I was ordered to stay back, I was adviced to stay back because Orc Nazuls are easiest to AoD back, Snoopy said he cant cast on me, too expensive. That is one of the main reasons why you had to take all the big targets. Not saying you didnt do well, you were great out there, but one of the reasons you did great is because some of us sacrifised for the rest. But I guess you will not admit that :)


02:40:41 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

Just chiming in here,

I also asked that you farm up a bit after OOP, because I foresaw your army slowing down. But you refused. :P


02:40:58 Aug 14th 11 - Tyrin (Mr. Tyrin):

I was offline sleeping at the time of the cw. I had also been hording gold as I do so Im never broke and gives me more versitility in spamming as whats needed vs later cost. I had more then enough to force prep on my only city, and those numbers were accurate of when? Because I had stopped dealing with the forums entirley after the non stop bitching started, since this is a game and all, and Im not going to sit here and let others displeasure ruin my fun.

And I certainly will admit you did great then, but you act as if we wouldve been helpless without you. We wouldnt have. This is not our first rodeo, we have done such things in the past, and if you had not landed with us and kept all those small crappy towns around our core area, there mightve actually been room for me to do my normal setup, in which time at that time of the era I couldve had double the income already and it wouldve paid the difference. So in reality, Im sorry to say, but alot of what you perceive as weakness at the moment was due to you being in the way :P

 I suppose Role Model and Toads armies that invaded were such easy pushovers as well. And burning down 500k or so, if not more of odins landcount had no effect on the outcome of the war. Let alone all the plunders that dont show because Im not gaining land that diminishes returns faster then it pays back, but you act like all the farming time was bought purley by you and that was the only reason for our success.

Lord knows I wouldve been able to take them should I have played like you had. Your entire post made it seem like you guys did everything, like glad being the only one fighting LR being a farce, since not only did Von go down to help him, TTA was also attacking LR from the other side, not to mention that Von had to handle TTA's.

Say and believe whatever you want, Im not going to argue logistics with someone with such distorted perception and assumptions, its just sickening.


02:53:04 Aug 14th 11 - Ms. Elisa Day:

Snoopy I did as you said, I farmed a bit, my army never slowed down, when that 300k Axeman army came toward us, most of you guys though its impressive and then person who were assigned to kill it had to do some army merging and eventually managed to kill him. I told you I can match that kind of army and had a stronger army when I attacked Wilber and he kicked me back at 20%, he told me that.

Tyrin so I should have destroyed all towns I took at oop, so I could give you space to grow? Well sorry you should have told me, Snoop told me to destroy what I didnt want, but since I already said I'm not a farmer and dislike building I rather take cities so I dont have to deal with that. Sorry I was in your way. That happens alot, like last era when Muse almost won the era, was in front of you all era so when Kd disbanded he was never invited back, cause he almost won the era.

But I do agree with you that this is one of the best KDs I've been in when it comes to skilled players (and I've been in Fate, HiV, Fear, Rebirth, Gladiators...) so I never said it wasnt good. Like you mentioned you guys always have to deal with multiple wars in your eras, and this era was kinda boring because after oop it was too easy.



02:59:15 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

Again, chiming in,


First, I said that you should wreck anything below a certain building count to make room for bigger towns. (I believe it was anything not above 10k or so)


Second, Muse completely ignored me OOP, barely listened soon after, and even casted dragon, in our core, without saying anything to me beforehand. I -will- say, he started redeeming himself late era. But by then, I had been so miffed about some habits of his. Not saying he's a bad player, just that he irked the hell out of me that era :P

= a tad bit annoying. 

Not to mention..... AT was a theme kingdom.... this was our first era with a name we plan on keeping. 

Before AT 
- Nsync (later Dirty Pop)
- Fukitol
- Pawerful (although that was mainly our transition -from- sexploited)
- Brilliant Stupidity
and so on... before this group of mine, we themed in that kingdom as well. 

So disbanding after an era isn't abnormal, since it was just a kingdom name. Reason I didn't re-invite was as above. :P


03:02:04 Aug 14th 11 - Tyrin (Mr. Tyrin Something):

"That happens alot, like last era when Muse almost won the era, was in front of you all era so when Kd disbanded he was never invited back, cause he almost won the era."

Once again, nice assumption. Muse didnt do anything the entire start of the era, we asked him to join to not have a oop core war since there was 2 kds who napped straight off right off the bat. Muse almost got himself killed attacking horus blindly, which gave his advents xp (he bounced to puppys towns with losses so great you could tell it was very close to a slaughter) and then muse did step up with Eco draco something pulled out a great army, but once again got beaten back pretty hard. Most his actual doing anything wasnt until most the opposition was destroyed, save beating a massive dwarf army that was pretty cool of him.

If you look at the kill counts for the era, I think it says it all though, considering before his army was even out of the core again from licking his wounds with horus I had slaughtered 2 halfers, an elf, knocked most their magic out for a time, and had another elf pratically rage wuit, while dealing with them feeding on a dwarf who had exams who built up a pretty decent landcount ;) You think if Muyse was that vauleable we wouldnt have invited him back? Hes a good guy, friendly and all, but once again it gos back to comunication, and his lack there of and random times with hardly coming on skype did not fit in with us. :P

As for the towns, I shouldve said something, but it was my mistake, I forgot how important the tax bonus of having at least one decent town was and figured the pickings around us would be easier, but odins had more fight in them then expected, so I played it from there as I saw would work. Also Von and Kopr were in position to farm, so obviously it wasnt needed for me as well, I just know what I wouldve done. Really, its not your fault, , Im sorry for putting it that way, its just how you are phrasing things is extremely frusterating when it simply wasnt how it was.

I really hope you stay on starta in another kd though. . . . . . . .


03:04:01 Aug 14th 11 - Tyrin (Mr. Tyrin Something):

LOL puppy, I forgot about his dragon rofl. It did more damages then Maxs since the front was so far ahead by then XD

Yeah, would you keep around a player that cast dragon in your own core?

Like I said, good guy, but not our style


03:04:46 Aug 14th 11 - Ms. Elisa Day:

Ah cool all that were you guys :P
I remember one era on lower world I played with my friend Arthur just two of us in the corner and then some bullies came and killed us, called Sexploited, so not cool!

Then later we fought Pawerful, who casted Arma before Fw managed to break their blockers, think I was in Rebirth on the other side of the blocker :P so like I said, one of the best invididuals around, cant deny that.


03:11:03 Aug 14th 11 - Ms. Elisa Day:

Dont know where I will be Tyrin, depends on Endless, where she takes me :)
It would be fun to have a lil 1 on 1 :) had alot of those and won all but one, nobody in this game can beat me 1 on 1 except Binh. :)

But thank you guys for accepting me in this Kd, it was fun for sure, eh and I apologize for saying bad things now in the end, but I just wanted to make some things clear cause I dont like when people suggest I didnt do enough. I will still consider most of you as friends, and Ery has been one of my best friends since start of my VU playing :) But just a friendly suggestion; when recruiting make it mandatory for people to use skype :) otherwise you'll have people complaining :)


03:14:12 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

Yuppers... I was Reggie in Sexploited and uhmm.... Puppylicious in Pawerful. :P


AND as I said earlier.... you read what I said the wrong way. lol 

I just do not and never will like the idea of instantly ending an era. Is the hoh broken? Yes. That's why I dislike the instant endings. 


04:11:35 Aug 14th 11 - Tyrin (Mr. Tyrin Something):

Im not in charge of recruiting. I likely wouldnt let anyone in, and that would be no good XD

If puppy wants to let non skypers in, its his business. He knows he has to make all the final decisions and overall is in charge of making sure everyone is on the same page anyways, regardless of how they communicate to him. I would much rather have that mandate though myself but its hard to find players with it who arnt already taken. This is not to mention how many who are friends on there that appear constantly offline or busy and whatnot because their allies on one map are enemies on another and such hehe

And you certainly did do your part, nothing I could say would change that. Even if it wasnt so (which it was), you were more then willing to help in any way possible. I dont believe I had said anything to the contrary, but I think everyone did. I apologize for the confrontational way I went about it as well. I sat down and read that first thing there in a bad mood from being out with my sister shopping for 5 or so hours for her wedding. It was murder >< I dont even get to wear a tux :'(

And yus, Ery is teh awesome-ness-est


10:13:52 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Dark Water:

Tyrin "I would like to see if I can race the arma clock and Kor to >:)"

No such luck mate. Korwin finally broke my blockers and I'm not going to see the end of the era. I really miss watching the world end... I haven't seen it for a while. =(

Anyways, this era would have been a very different story if our blocker actually blocked and Korwin didn't get into our core. Sure, we still would have lost.... but it would have taken a least two additional two weeks, if not more.

O, and whats up with this?

Armageddon

Armageddon has been cast in your world!

Currently 17 people wants the age to end, 3 does not, and 7 people has not voted.


ingdoms in Starta
Optimus Consilium7Mr. Snoopy3176
Time to Adventure7Mr. Toad100

HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE NEED TO VOTE!?!?!


10:15:05 Aug 14th 11 - Wilberforce (Lady Wilb Bride Sry Binh):

I went out shopping with the missus for 3 hours on Friday Tyrin, so I feel your pain bro.

All she bought was a pair of leggings and trousers.


10:20:09 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Mad Max II The Warrior:

*Sigh* Alone again. No more Leather Rebels. Well... anyone want me next era? Or anyone want to start a KD?


10:40:16 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

Mr. Mad Max II The Warrior


Report


03:20:09 Aug 14th 11
*Sigh* Alone again. No more Leather Rebels. Well... anyone want me next era? Or anyone want to start a KD?


Friendly endorsement.... he has caused OC some annoyance in the past. ;P


10:54:09 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

"Anyways, this era would have been a very different story if our blocker actually blocked and Korwin didn't get into our core. Sure, we still would have lost.... but it would have taken a least two additional two weeks, if not more"


Wouldn't be so sure.... I dropped a 57k mc just outside your core, in case I actually *had:* to do some casting.... just meant the era "ended" quicker for me, so to speak. :P


18:06:54 Aug 14th 11 - Mr. Dark Water:

The first thing Korwyn did was take out our magic..... and our halfer's income. The era would have been much longer with these two pieces in play.

"a least two additional two weeks"

God, I was tired when I typed this. =P


01:07:35 Aug 15th 11 - Mr. Dark Water:

heh... Now that I've lost:

Kingdoms in Starta
Optimus Consilium7Mr. Snoopy17268
Legion of Roma2Mr. Julius Caesar104


01:44:58 Aug 15th 11 - Mr. Ensign Xlviii:

lol... well, going to end soon anyway. Spamwars in session. :P


20:05:05 Aug 15th 11 - Ms. Elisa Day:

Why does the voting for Arma keep reseting?

Currently 1 people wants the age to end, 1 does not, and 25 people has not voted.



22:20:13 Aug 15th 11 - Mr. Snoopy:

Well, could be because he's mussing around with stuff for the facebook app. Sorta froze tick change for around 20 minutes earlier as well. 


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