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Starta Discus Era of Dvsmasta
18:56:08 Jul 8th 09 - Chancellor Ademo:

Your rules. Your warning. Your dissolution of the NAP.

Your choice.

Deal with it. We didn't betray anyone.


18:57:23 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

btw....Landros....why did you cut this part out from the log you posted in Crazy thread?


yep
[2009-06-14 01:39:54] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: I don't want to have bad relations with you guys
[2009-06-14 01:40:01] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: but that stuff is very very bad
[2009-06-14 01:40:04] Landromatic skriver: heh
[2009-06-14 01:40:15] Landromatic skriver: Let me find it
[2009-06-14 01:40:32] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: it's blocking into our core
[2009-06-14 01:40:51] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: between the mountain opening below us
[2009-06-14 01:41:19] Landromatic skriver: ahh
[2009-06-14 01:41:25] Landromatic skriver: yeah I se it
[2009-06-14 01:41:37] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: Please have it removed :)
[2009-06-14 01:43:45] Landromatic skriver: we have that area blocked off
[2009-06-14 01:44:12] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: She put that up today
[2009-06-14 01:44:18] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: it is on the edge of our core
[2009-06-14 01:44:27] Landromatic skriver: yep
[2009-06-14 01:44:28] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: and it is hurting our relations
[2009-06-14 01:44:47] Landromatic skriver: I see what you mean


18:59:26 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

and your return in regards to my inquiry in that log.......


Message From Mr. Loony Goatsin Nursing
Your kingdom


Mr. Loony Goatsin Nursing [CRAZY] (6/15/2009 4:47:33 AM) GOOD BAD
hey,

after talking it over with our members, we decided not to remove any blockers. 20% voted to attack you for threatening us. 10% said they would leave if we attacked you. 20% wanted us to attack phi instead. 20% wanted to start the fight with BOOM again. 30% wanted to just fight Juicy and Rebirth.

So if you want to attack us for building we are open to having a WAR with you because Nivarnna is SOOoo boring. Actually most of the orcs have great human and elf dishes they want t otry out. but us halflings know rabbit stew is most delicious.

take this as an invitation to attack us when you are in the mood.

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You said I threatened you. I don't see where I did that. I'll even post the entire log here again......but I do see you threatening us in the above text, Landros.



19:00:03 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

[2009-06-14 01:38:01] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: hey you
[2009-06-14 01:38:07] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: I have a serious request
[2009-06-14 01:38:10] Landromatic skriver: hello
[2009-06-14 01:38:10] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: Marr
City Info
Owner: Ms. Deranged Carna Kingdom Banner
Size: 37 building(s).
Kingdom: Insane Asylum
Gates: no gates
[2009-06-14 01:38:15] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: that city has to be removed
[2009-06-14 01:38:25] Landromatic skriver: I'll take a look
[2009-06-14 01:38:31] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: We put scouts there to stop her from blocking us into our own core
[2009-06-14 01:38:40] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: and she still built there
[2009-06-14 01:39:00] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: dunno why she would do that
[2009-06-14 01:39:10] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: my guys are getting very annoyed
[2009-06-14 01:39:11] Landromatic skriver: sounds CRAZY
[2009-06-14 01:39:14] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: yep
[2009-06-14 01:39:54] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: I don't want to have bad relations with you guys
[2009-06-14 01:40:01] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: but that stuff is very very bad
[2009-06-14 01:40:04] Landromatic skriver: heh
[2009-06-14 01:40:15] Landromatic skriver: Let me find it
[2009-06-14 01:40:32] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: it's blocking into our core
[2009-06-14 01:40:51] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: between the mountain opening below us
[2009-06-14 01:41:19] Landromatic skriver: ahh
[2009-06-14 01:41:25] Landromatic skriver: yeah I se it
[2009-06-14 01:41:37] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: Please have it removed :)
[2009-06-14 01:43:45] Landromatic skriver: we have that area blocked off
[2009-06-14 01:44:12] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: She put that up today
[2009-06-14 01:44:18] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: it is on the edge of our core
[2009-06-14 01:44:27] Landromatic skriver: yep
[2009-06-14 01:44:28] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: and it is hurting our relations
[2009-06-14 01:44:47] Landromatic skriver: I see what you mean
[2009-06-14 01:44:54] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: we are at war with BOOM and we don't appreciate being crippled by friendly alliances
[2009-06-14 01:45:01] Landromatic skriver: but we are buildin right out to there
[2009-06-14 01:45:13] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: You can't block that tho
[2009-06-14 01:45:20] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: it is our area
[2009-06-14 01:45:27] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: our core reaches to there
[2009-06-14 01:45:57] Landromatic skriver: you can reach BOOM from bloms
[2009-06-14 01:46:30] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: I am asking nicely that you have it removed
[2009-06-14 01:46:53] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: if you don't, we will see it as hostile, trying to block us in
[2009-06-14 13:21:37] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: [01:46:30] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: I am asking nicely that you have it removed
[01:46:53] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: if you don't, we will see it as hostile, trying to block us in
[2009-06-14 13:22:03] ¤ Carina // WarG // Mzzery ¤ skriver: I really thought more than that of friends


19:00:46 Jul 8th 09 - Ms. Morphmidaz:

Bang Bang howdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Part-en-er!


19:01:45 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

*hugs Midaz* :D


19:05:06 Jul 8th 09 - Ms. Morphmidaz:

*smooch*


19:08:40 Jul 8th 09 - Ms. Morphmidaz:

Wow more crap in this thread than the entire gastro ward!  Have the loony bin checked for VRE please before it's too late!  It will spread just like their plague did!


19:09:42 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

hahahahahahaa....yeah, we really should have them tested :D


19:29:23 Jul 8th 09 - Mr. Loony Goatsin Nursing:

the city MARR was built after we stopped fighting BOOM. 

"Carina // WarG // Mzzery ?skriver: it is on the edge of our core"

We can build outside your core.  our core reached there until BOOM took it.

"[2009-06-14 01:39:54] ?Carina // WarG // Mzzery ?skriver: I don't want to have bad relations with you guys"

lies

"[2009-06-14 01:39:10] ?Carina // WarG // Mzzery ?skriver: my guys are getting very annoyed"

threats

"[2009-06-14 01:44:54] ?Carina // WarG // Mzzery ?skriver: we are at war with BOOM and we don't appreciate being crippled by friendly alliances"

make believe

"[2009-06-14 01:46:30] ?Carina // WarG // Mzzery ?skriver: I am asking nicely that you have it removed"

threats

"[01:46:53] ?Carina // WarG // Mzzery ?skriver: if you don't, we will see it as hostile, trying to block us in"

warnings

"Chancellor Ademo Your choice."

Yes, I chose to do what I  agreed to.  it was the honourable thing to do.  While on the subject any thoughts on BOOM's sending of a 500k army in our direction?

You (6/6/2009 12:09:10 PM)
great BOOM leader,

I want CRAZY to go kill rebirth and juicy so if you would like us out of your hair. I'm cool offering an era long cease fire. Starting whenever you want.

We'd argee not to attack any BOOM cities or armies and would expect the same from you.

I'll send it out as a kindom wide as soon as you agree.


Mr. Alfred Nobel [BOOM] (6/6/2009 10:43:02 PM)
I agree with the addition that we would like permission to take back the cities in our eastern core. absivillon, fiery weather and penitence. if you agree to this I will send out a kd wide msg about the cf as soon as I get your reply.


19:35:04 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

Your issues with other kingdoms is hardly any of our business is it?

On the subject of threats and stuff.....if you see the above as threats, lies??, make believe???, what do you call this?

Message From P*******
Elrond
Back to message list

You (6/16/2009 8:13:11 AM)
:P

Please go up the west side instead....we have our core here, and the NAP says no marching armies in each other's cores :)


****c [CRAZY] (6/16/2009 12:44:12 PM) GOOD BAD
how DARE u threaten me ru totally retarded????


You (6/16/2009 12:50:31 PM)
How the HELL do you see that as a threat? It is a NAP AGREEMENT....how dare YOU threaten ME?




19:37:31 Jul 8th 09 - Mr. Ignis:

Actually the honorable thing to do would NOT be break a NAP to help a MAP partner...sorry, don't know where you got that idea :). Threatening your NAP partner is even worse, which is what you guys have been doing all era.

Seriously, gl getting a NAP next era if you don't change your policies, Crazy.


19:41:25 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

Message From *********
Squishu
Back to message list

You (6/16/2009 8:09:40 AM)
Please head the other way, you aren't supposed to walk in our core with armies. Thank you.


******** [CRAZY] (6/16/2009 12:40:58 PM) GOOD BAD
let me through the blocker to get to my north cities or i will take stay away


******** [CRAZY] (6/16/2009 4:59:11 PM) GOOD BAD
I have checked this with my leaders and the definition of a 'core' is an area where your kingdom has cities with blockers at the boundaries. I can see that for the past few hours only you are building some blockers that may define a new core area, however at this stage this area is totally open and has various kingdoms cities in it, i was able to walk straight in. I therefore do not recognise this area as your core and as such I am breaking no NAP conditions.
I have walked here through cores of kingdoms that are friendly to CRAZY and they are more than happy to let me through anyway, since I am heading to attack common enemies. It is a shame that hellbunnies don't have such good relationships with their allies and want to hamper our kingdom in our movements between our cities, for no apparent reason other than to be difficult it seems. It is odd that you would want to antagonise people on the same side as you rather than fight the people you are warring.
Pretty sad IMO.


You (6/16/2009 5:48:03 PM)
Your guys opened a blocker ("This Shud Work") and let our enemy TC in before you asked for this blocker of ours to be opened for your own armies. I wasn't happy about that, and was wondering if there was something going on, since it didn't take more then a couple of hours before you wanted to move an army through for the first time.

I merely pointed out what is in the NAP agreement, and you told me you will take our blocker if we didn't open it. That's not very friendly.

Also, I asked way over a week ago to please let me send a scout to fanta through "This Shud Work", but I have yet to even get a reply on that inquiry. If I am not even allowed one scout, why should I allow 2 armies? That is what I would wanna know.

I have recieved a much nicer reply from Landros regarding the blocker issue. You really shouldn't threaten friends for pointing out what YOUR leader put in the era long NAP.


******** [CRAZY] (6/17/2009 12:06:34 PM) GOOD BAD
i have no idea who you are, you are certainly no friend of mine. you are just the person who sends rude aggressive sounding messages to me on VU!
i suggest you ask our leaders about any issues about our blockers, i am not one of them.
go order around someone in your own kingdom in future.


19:50:32 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

This is from the person in the message before the last one. Not the same player as in the last post.


Message From P******c
NAP Breach


You (6/16/2009 10:40:55 AM)
This Shud Work
City Info
Owner: Mr. D******k Kingdom Banner
Size: 14400 building(s).
Kingdom: Insane Asylum
Gates: closed

That blocker has been opened to let our enemies set a path, then closed again. We have screenies. What do you guys have to say about this?

Regards,
Mzzery


P*******c [CRAZY] (6/16/2009 12:43:36 PM) GOOD BAD
wanna war us do u? looking for an excuse ru? nice work rawrrrrr


P******c [CRAZY] (6/16/2009 12:47:20 PM) GOOD BAD
by the way u have 3 ticks to open stay awayb so i can access my magic city in the north or i take it


19:53:18 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

I'm done playing kindergarten....I'm here to war, not to argue about wether it is ok to war or not in a war game.... I think you get my point tho, in regards to threats etc.



20:49:52 Jul 8th 09 - Mr. Duran Dark Elf:

less talk more bunnies in bunny suits(not you ademo and i dont mean bugs bunny)

my experience from various games is a MPP/MAP etc always overides a nap...if two nap parties fight then you generally stay out but if a nap attacks a MPP(and has been aware the alliance was a MPP) then that alliance has infact broken the NAP....the MPP are duty bound to fight together and knowing this, chosing to attack their ally disolves a NAP instantly.

Exceptions can be made with diplomacy, say to punish a rogue member or if the MPP has behaved in such a dastardly manner that negotiations were likely to drastically change anyhow( like the MPP abuses their postion as an ally to bully a much smaller alliance knowing they are backed by MPP in which case the MPP relationship may be cancelled).

i don't however view most of lady mzerry's correspondance as being threatening in the least in regard to one crazy army and blocker, was rather a polite request.

i do however think bunnies have made poor judgement on warring an alliance that is MPP with a NAP partner, under the premise of war for the hell of it. They will be known as the agressors from here on in and naturally viewed with suspicion. Unlike TC who had attacked a bunnies blocker and thus they chose to fight them, there was no reason for an attack on LD except for being at their whim. this attitude will be remembered in the future by more than are involved in this.

On Phi, well they really ought not be posting. They were gangbanged by everyone and allowed to rebuild. they had no beef with LD but jumped on when LD was on the backfoot, thus becoming the very thing they fought against. they did at least give 24 hours notice of war, which was kind of them but some of the comments on this forum are disappointing, considering that.

 

 


21:50:52 Jul 8th 09 - Mr. Mavich:

Lol, Duran.. read the first part of your post and if you still didn't get it.. well.. read again until you do =)


21:54:54 Jul 8th 09 - Duke Pikachu:

I want mzzery in a bunny suit!!!!


21:57:31 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Karma:

I want mzzery in a birthday suit!!!!


21:58:41 Jul 8th 09 - Duke Pikachu:

thats not a very proper thing for a lady to say!!!


21:59:35 Jul 8th 09 - Lady Karma:

Kiss my grits...

^^ There was that one better? :P


22:00:48 Jul 8th 09 - Duke Pikachu:

no.. not really....


22:01:03 Jul 8th 09 - Duke Pikachu:

woot double


01:56:07 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Loony Goatsin Nursing:

Thank you Mr. Duran Dark Elf.  if Bunnies weren't harassing  mr. ******** he woulndn't have been so pissed off.  you should have known better.  all the stars in his name is a dead give away that he isn't the kind of ruler to put up with your bunny poo.  I seem to recall some kind of insult or reference to him bein his mother or some such thing.  let me throw this back at ya: "why did you cut this part out from the log?"

as to P*******c, if it was in the NAP not to open blockers so you should have just not opened and waited.  We would have had to boot P*******c if any terms were violated or given compensation.  also note all the stars in the name.  don't mess with ruler's that have stars in their names. 

same deal with D******k.  compensation was offered and YOU refused to take us up on it.  3 strikes you are out.  please learn a lesson.  keep your bunny poo away from rulers with stars in their names.

Sorry my reply was so late.  after reading those long posts I fell asleep.  don't know what your issues are. I wished you luck next era and you jump down my throat.  Good thing I don't have any stars in my name.

 ;)


02:36:13 Jul 9th 09 - Duke Pikachu:

if you crazy nubs don't stop talking shit ill come kill you myself...


03:51:35 Jul 9th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

Loony......no......I star all names out that aren't posting in threads....I see no reason to post names, but sure. whatever. Grasp straws all you want.

You really have lost all your marbels. Maybe they have a summer sales soon, so you can buy new ones? :)


04:10:07 Jul 9th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

Can we go back to warring now?

Sorry btw, for spanking your army so hard, Loony....can you send me a new one please?


04:11:21 Jul 9th 09 - Ms. Lilly Telvanus II:

I'm usually pretty neutral and empathetic when it comes to arguments but please...

Thread in a nut shell now:
Bunnies got bored and attacked LD.
Crazy didn't like it.
LD, spread out from constant conflict is easily trampled in the west.
Bunnies gloat.
LD members get offended.
Bunnies get offended.
'incoherent forum flaming'
LD armies that were actually thousands of girl scouts with free cookies were slaughtered by bunnies... why bunnies, WHY!?

(At least I think that's how it happened... I wish I could have flash backs)


04:40:22 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

lol and who threatened u that ure blocker wud b taken cause i was one of the peeps that asked 2 get through taht blocker and i sure didnt threaten 2 take it...


04:46:38 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

and u bunny noobs broke our NAP agreement 2 u casted magic upon my city and then said u were trying 2 get a city 2 ticks away from me. i never new it was so hard 2 get a city with magic or is i just u noobs that find it hard????


04:58:36 Jul 9th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

Dropkick....you were one of them? Really?

Their names both start with Psych****, your name was on the city that opened to let TC though tho.

Hmmm...


05:01:30 Jul 9th 09 - Chancellor Ademo:

Yes Dropkick. 1 failed spell that wasn't directed at you that we were upfront about IMMEDIATELY after it happened

What did you do again? Oh that's right, opened your blocker to let an enemy army set path and then closed it again right after.


05:10:12 Jul 9th 09 - Dr. Raving Lunatic:

Sigh



I'm an acorn, small and round
Lying on the cold, cold ground
Everyone walks over me
That is why I'm cracked you see

I'm a nut! (click, click) [with tongue]
I'm a nut! (click, click)
I'm a nut! (click, click)

Called myself on the telephone
Just to hear my golden tone
Asked me out for a little date
Picked me up about half past eight

I'm a nut! (click, click) [with tongue]
I'm a nut! (click, click)
I'm a nut! (click, click)

Took myself to the movie show
Stayed too late and said "Let's go"
Took my hand and led me out
Drove me home and gave a shout!

I'm a nut! (click, click) [with tongue]
I'm a nut! (click, click)
I'm a nut! (click, click)


05:15:15 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

lol seeing that my friends did that cause they found out my password not me... im not an NAP breaker but believe whatever u want... and i thought u meant the north blocker so my mistake


05:16:24 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:



Watch out, that's what our Zerks is like.


05:17:02 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

raving lunatic where do u cum up with these????


05:17:23 Jul 9th 09 - Ms. Lilly Telvanus II:

Everyone should relax, take a 15 minute walk outside and come back and realise that politics are not worth getting personal over. Resolve or agree to disagree. -shrugs-


05:17:44 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

with these i mean by the poem thingi lol


05:18:18 Jul 9th 09 - Chancellor Ademo:

Dropkick, do you REALLY expect us to belive that your "friends" got on your account to let an army thru that blocker and then close it again? Like, seriously?


05:22:57 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

do u want me 2 get them 2 post here that they did??? i will prove it...(lets just hope that they will do it lol)


05:24:11 Jul 9th 09 - Lady Mzzery:

Dropkick...

Mr. Dropkick


Report


03:40:22 Jul 9th 09 lol and who threatened u that ure blocker wud b taken cause i was one of the peeps that asked 2 get through taht blocker and i sure didnt threaten 2 take it...
----------

Mr. Dropkick


Report


04:15:15 Jul 9th 09 lol seeing that my friends did that cause they found out my password not me... im not an NAP breaker but believe whatever u want... and i thought u meant the north blocker so my mistake

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I am confused.....why would you ask to get the blocker you personally owned, opened? By your friends having your pass and letting TC through? 

2 VERY separate issues, that indeed happened within a couple of hours from eachother, making us less than happy since one insident was to let our enemyes through, and the other was to threaten to take OUR blocker....but other than that......separate issues..... ?


05:27:15 Jul 9th 09 - Chancellor Ademo:

Sure Dropkick, go get your "friends" to post here, we won't believe them either :p


05:33:21 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

lol well i wont bother then if u wont believe me lol..and dont worry bout the threatening 2 take the blocker issue i just got confused bout which blocker u were tlkin bout. and why r u always putting friends in speech marks (")?????


05:42:41 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Duran Dark Elf:

"friends" who have access to your password are a bit like pets and animals with accounts playing...

that is the way in most games...

any outsider would have this view:

a) you are lying to cover the fact you did something you shouldnt

b) you are a multi, and still did something you shouldnt

either way looks bad. FAR BETTER to say I didnt know it was a problem for you (didnt know you were warring TC) and i am really sorry it wont happen again...(even if you secretly did so deliberately, people might actually believe this).

 

Author of the book

multi 101 "how to act like a real multi-note this book is not available for noobs"

-retired gaming multi

 


05:50:02 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Duran Dark Elf:

before you get too excited i aint accusing you of being a multi...just pointing out you are making yourself sound like one...


05:55:39 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

ok lol well im not a multi cause if i was i wud have used it and said that i was dropkicks friend and said that i was the 1 that opened the gates but since i didnt it looks lyk im not a multi...


06:18:18 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Duran Dark Elf:

yes that makes perfect sense...er not lol

you do stand up comedy too?

*gets some popcorn


06:20:56 Jul 9th 09 - Sir Onslaught:

I'd like to buy that book m8 :)


06:29:35 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

lol nah i dont do stand up comedy i sit down and do it


06:31:20 Jul 9th 09 - Mr. Dropkick:

and if u didnt understand what i said i said (in simple terms) if i had a multi i wud have used that account and said that he was the friend that opened the gates... but i didnt cause i dont have a multi


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