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Idk about any gang bang.
Koh 10 players
Novus 7 players
CoA 2 players was three.
Solo Fred 1 player.
VS
H&S 9 players
Nara 7 players
Spqr 6 players
IPF 6 players 3 havn't been on the map long enough to really count.
We stayed out of the war when it was just coa koh and novis vs nara and h&s until it became clear the koh would have victory and break into their core area.
Now it is just Spqr and Ipf vs Koh ,CoA, and Novis.
Over all I would say no gang bang , just a good age of north vs south.
The south I feel we all feared as many of the better players were on that side so ofc we all had no choice but to fight.... no gang bang just action and reaction.
Well played all :)
Pretty sure none of my kills are Koh
Your character Mr. Homo Erectus has won 12 battles, captured 3 cities and killed a total of 1491182 men and women
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With all due respect Ody, let me translate one of your lines for you....
"We stayed out of the war when it was just coa koh and novis vs nara and
h&s until it became clear the koh would have victory and break into
their core area" = you farmed big time :)
I really did not appreciate a farmed up IPF and SPQR coming after us. This has been an incredibly stressful era for KoH. It is time we released some stress on our part.
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A humble request to everyone on Valhalla: Please make sure not to buy any resources from Fred the douchebag on the market.
Fred has done a fabulous job of putting his douche-bagery on ultimate display by "sneakily" plundering Slade (who has been inactive for 31 days - so he probably had billions in stored resources).
08:45:49 - Our Refugee II failed to defend Shadows Reach. Move lead by Mr. Terrorist Fred attacked and plundered Shadows Reach. We lost 0 Farmers, 0 Slingers, 0 Pony riders, 0 Illusionists, 0 Adventurers and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.
Well atleast we know who gets the douchebag of the era award for this era :)
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Oh, and Ody, you wanted to know who has been plundering Slade, right?
Guess what. The very first plunder on him has happened. It came from Fred, whom my kingdom thought had peace with Church. And we haven't even touched Slade at all.
I did not appreciate it when you implied that my kingdom had been plundering Slade.
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hahah fair play to fred, I would have plundered slade half given the chance.
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I should clarify: We had an era-long NAP with Fred.
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Any kingdom with Fred is almost always on my to-kill list unless there are much stronger vices to keep him leashed and at heel. That guy is just slightly better than people like Survivor, Revenge and Kath, and that isn't saying anything good about him. Would almost never trust him or his word. I guess this serves as a lesson to all the folks in Valhalla now about his trustworthiness.
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So sorry your age was stressful, freaking sad hearing you go on about how you were so gang banged and everyone out farmed you. You were not Gang banged, and very few players could out farm the legendary tbl.
My bet was KOH would win the age before it even started as was all the other kingdoms here I am sure now that the age played out ofc KoH will have victory.
Yet TBL persist on claiming they were gang banged and out farmed lol, claiming such with a player line as your kingdom has, with the relations your kingdom has just doesn't make much sense.
You guys have played a good age and deserve victory just don't go claiming gang bang and being out farmed cause that is a total load of BS.
About time somebody plundered him, I know for sure I saw koh prepping him earlier in age when we had sight and were attempting to push into coa area.
IDk if he was plundered I guess the only real way to know would be to see slades news feed.
Well played fred I would of plundered him too :P
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I gladly invite Fred to join us in killing KoH next era.
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There was one point in the era when we had maybe 3-4 IPF armies to our west with another 2-3 SPQR armies behind them within a day or two while at the same time defending from Nararians and HnS in the east with maybe 2.5m troops between their blockers and Vilhelm's 200k, that point in the era did get kind of tight for us as Novus were still training troops and my casting kept losing range b/c of city placement.
And if you want to know why those armies from KoH were on Slade's cities you can confirm this with SPQR and Osi. I asked everyone in the area if we could CF the armies prepping Slade. We planned to BnD them. That didn't happen as Stewie wanted to wait it out (selfish for ignoring the rest of the VU players IMO but whatever). If we in KoH had plundered those cities and then crushed you, let's be real all the forum banter would have been about that.
Past everyone achieving their own end though I think we should probly just stick with this: Over all I would say no gang bang , just a good age of north vs south.
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Next era, I'm hoping for East versus West.
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02:48:45 May 23rd 17 - Sprout (Mr. Sprout):
So
sorry your age was stressful, freaking sad hearing you go on about how
you were so gang banged and everyone out farmed you. You were not
Gang banged, and very few players could out farm the legendary tbl.
Eh, Ody, we WERE gangbanged, and we WERE out-farmed. Me and my kingdomates have been fighting since OOP, as Nararians and Novus can attest. The fact that I can reach the size I have reached now is just because I am a pretty good player.
And yes, we were gang-banged. And probably according to your calculations (the one you keep in your heart, not the words you put into the forums), we should have lost. Let's say Novus and Church get cancled out by Nararians. On your side, you have three war-elves and four pumped-up orcs, not including the various farmed up dwarves and humans. On our side, we have only two war-elves, and four orcs and trolls who only were able to get fat after we punched through H&S' blocker.
That's 7 vs 6 on the AOTDable race front. Plus you guys have at least 4 big dwarves and 3 humans with 200Kers. Its just me (human) and our halfling on the KoH side.
There is no way in heaven (no pun) that we should be winning this era. Or having any advantage at all. Especially since we have been fighting OOP until now.
So yeah, when you come with your bullshit that you "thought" KoH would be winning this era, I'm not impressed. You came to our area when we were still stalemated at H&S blockers, so there is no way you were really thinking KoH was going to win the era. You were just thinking: KoH shall be gang-banged down, and the H&S - IPF - SPQR team will do it while Nararians deal with Novus and Church.
Unfortunately for you and IPF, KoH threaded the needle with the strategies and tactics we needed to prevent a loss. Now that H&S is down, trust me, it will be a pleasure dealing with your kingdom.
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So now we agree that koh armies were indeed prepping the inactive,,, who would really know if it were plundered or not lol.
Then you come back with bunch of races for a line up in def ... really... I talking players, like chade and yourself and the list goes on all very respected well defined players. Yet you seem to be the only one so persistent on claiming a GB. I named you a legend and I named your mates under valor as well, Why you say I lie, yet your mate clearly stated above that novis had no troops trained yet but we out farmed you? Doh I get it now .... You mean just you not your mates or your relations.
And talk of strat ... You guys had it hands down, CoA, Novis and Fred all lost nice armies to us after both you and chade retreated after seeing what our armies were.. Now that we killed those 1.5 million troops of your allies why you trained on to compete now coming in with enough to slaughter us off the map and you still claiming Gang bang this is my issue here. A gang bang would of been coa and fred and novis plus us north attacking koh. You had relations with your neighbors as did most kingdoms on the map. You guys have had a secure core as did most kingdoms on the map. Spqr and Ipf were way late in this battle and yes we and Spqr decided to war the south instead of invading H&S and Nara as they were losing the war and we all feared KOH would pull victory.
I don't post much in the forums but to see one of the best players I known in the game to claim a gb when in fact its just been a good age of north vs south and they winning and always were lol. There is no GB if there were you would not have survived the age cause you would of had no relations. So you can keep posting in def but just know your not fooling anyone you were not GBed and your weren't out farmed either. You have more income then I do that is for sure. You are a better player then I for sure. I saw KOH prepping coa inactive yet you jump all over me for thinking you guys might have plundered him. From mine and anyone else that had seen this would of been thinking the same thing yourself included had the tables been turned.
You might be one of the better players I known in the game tbl but you still full of total BS if think any experienced player is going to buy a GB this age on a map with 50% protection were many new players come to play and be beat by all the vets that lay in KoH and Novis, CoA... I commend Koh and their allies on well played age. I commend TBL for returning to the game thats about it.
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1) We do not behave like you or Fred would Ody. We do not plunder an allied player with no hesitation or shame at all :) We should have B&Ded that fuckhead however. Useless twerp that abandoned his own kingdom.
2) Yes, you outfarmed us. You guys had no OOP wars at all. Unlike IPF, who fought nobody OOP, KoH was fighting Nararians and Novus in an OOP war. All three of us were beat up, then we had to CF Novus when H&S entered the picture (and they were clearly allied to Nararians then). During the OOP war, Novus had no space to expend. Only after we CFed, were they able to drop bigger mining cities at last. When IPF entered the picture, the key players of Novus had just about finished their economic cities and were starting to train some troops.
Just remember this.... unlike IPF, Novus actually did some HEAVY OOP fighting for once.
3) You call it what you want. I call what happened to my kingdom a gangbang, and we will NOT let the era end without either us or IPF / SPQR going down. If IPF had had an OOP war, maybe we would have allowed an earlier Arma cast, but no, we will see this out to its very end now.
4) Chade and I did not retreat because we saw your armies, Ody. Chade and I retreated to get AOTDed AFTER destroying McMax's and Marcus Aurelius' armies. Which were bigger than your armies, BTW. McMax had 260K AMs combined when you were only having 220K. Marcus Aurelius had 28K nazzies combined. We took them out, and pulled back to get AOTDed and recover injured. Then when we came back out, you ran north with your tail between your legs.
5) You killing off those 1.5 million troops of my allies (Fred is not my ally BTW) is because they were players recovering from OOP fighting, while you were farmed up and waiting for them to come to you. Nothing spectacular about it. Even a newish player can pull it off.
6) We were never winning. At one point in the era, most of us in KoH felt certain we would lose. That was especially after Cao Cao had escaped, and then Justanius and you showed up and SPQR refused to reply to our relations inquiries. You thinking that KoH would always be winning is just tongue-twisting spin.
7) And spare me the vet beating up new players crap. There are many vets on YOUR side as well, and worst still, they outnumber us. You guys just could not marshal your farmed-up players properly and your vets made some major critical mistakes. When your side has more elves and orcs than us, with bigger armies than us, and you have dwarves with 3 90Ks each and humans with 200Kers in reserve, there is no excuse to be had at all. You guys TRIED to gangbang us with FARMED UP armies, and some of you guys had NO OOP wars too. Just that you guys FAILED.
8) Finally, if you did not want us to jump on you about plundering Slade, then you shouldn't have insinuated as such in the first place. Like I said.... do you think that all of us would behave like you?
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for everyone information, i told them i will plunder him, he is not playing.
1-so it could be me or anyone who will attack him from their kingdom enemies.
2- Someone cast those dragons on them, and i guess koh began by casting the dragons. so koh started attacking their allies !
3- so it will be me who will plunder him or THE DRAGON will take all his gold and pezz and it did.
4- i dont care come and attack me :)
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Hey Fred :)
1. You did not tell CoA that you will be plundering Slade. Even if you did, they would not have allowed it :)
2. It was Osi that cast those dragons. KoH are not that stupid to be casting dragons on allies :) We do not behave like you would, backstabbing allied players.
3. I'd rather the dragon take all of Slade's gold and pezzies than it going to anyone hostile to us.
4. We WILL be attacking you :) We're just waiting for our other big elf to come over here (you know.... the one with more than 500K AMs.... and he will be arriving in about 24 hours). If you do not want to face him, please feel free to raze your 200K down to the ground now so that you can spare us the expense of fighting you :P We really don't want to waste our time clearing out the trash, you know.... :P
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please feel free to attack, i am waiting :)
but u ran to my undefended cities, with a horde armies hehe.
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I can't fight someone who has plundered an allied inactive of several hundred million in stone and gold :)
I'll leave your 200K to one of my kingdom's elves. Your undefended cities need to be taken out though, in the meantime :P They must be giving you a lot of additional income :o
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I was the one prepping Slade, and no I didn't plunder.... I was there to bnd for stew until he changed his mind to see if Slade came back. :)
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guys stop nagging, i m not saying i have the right to plunder that player.
but if at any time, a player go for more than 10 days, i ll plunder him, and i ll repeat what i did in this era.
its either you play or not. (again if i didnt maybe an enemy will do or a dragon in our case) so dont teach me a lesson in morality , its just a game of war for me.
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I am not interested in teaching you a lesson in morality, Fred. I am just planning how to kill you :)
And heck, I will be the first to admit that I was tempted to have one of my kingdomates plunder Slade too. Especially when the gang-banging from IPF and SPQR started and there was a risk one of our enemies could plunder Slade instead. I even floated the idea around in my chatroom and with Stewie. But the idea was shot down pretty quickly as it wasn't in our kingdom's nature to pull such a stunt. And most of my kingdomates have built up a good reputation for themselves, and I would never jeopardize what they have built. So yeah, we did not do anything to Slade, even though, if we wanted to, we could have very easily done it.
As for what you have done, maybe that is the philosophy you subscribe to in VU. However, do not forget... people have a tendency of applying what they believe in in a game to real life as well. And in real life, if I were to be faced with a person of your belief system, you would have a very very VERY big marker in my book. Because if anything negative should happen to me, a person like you would not hesitate to back-stab and take advantage of my circumstances; I would not trust you for a single moment to withhold your own desires and devices.
And maybe a different person from me, when facing you, would just take preemptive action and just eliminate you as a possible threat immediately. That's how "game of wars" are played, aren't they? ;)
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@Fred:
Not only are you a backstabber, but also a lying piece of shit... Stop trying to bend the facts. You asked if you could plunder your NAP partner (Slade) because you were afraid of KoH or Novus plundering him. I assured you that we have friendly relations with KoH and Novus, and therefore they will not be attacking/plundering Slade. I remember specifically asking you not to plunder Slade too...
Yet what do you do....you go around trying to sneakily plunder Slade without any of us finding out...and you got caught red handed because I had placed scouts on each of Slade's cities just to monitor if anyone would try attacking/plundering him. And congratulations - you were the first and only douchebag to do so.
You just lost all respect in my books mate. Well done.
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And I guess the plundering wasn't enough for you, so now you've decided to fully backstab your NAP partners and go for their undefended cities??
23:34:43 - Fire rains from the sky on our Merge Back army! 12815 troops burned to death. 23:34:40 - Mr. Terrorist Fred attempted to cast a spell upon us. 23:34:38 - Mr. Terrorist Fred attempted to cast a spell upon us. 23:34:35 - Fire rains from the sky on our Merge Back army! 16018 troops burned to death. 23:34:24 - Fire rains from the sky on our Merge Back army! 20023 troops burned to death.
Shame on you....
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Its Fred's idea of a war game :) Backstabbing allies and reneging on promises and agreements are all fully legal in his book!
I don't really like wishing evil on people, but I hope someone gives him a bloody nose and knocks out his two front teeth in real life as a preemptive strike against him backstabbing them in the future! :D
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Why is it always the front teeth? knock out their back teeth and let them chew with their front teeth the rest of their life
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19:51:24 May 22nd 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie):
A humble request to everyone on Valhalla: Please make sure not to buy any resources from Fred the douchebag on the market.
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And what Stewie said is right, Fred :)
Hopefully someone knocks out your front teeth AND your back teeth in real life :D Its a war game, remember! :|
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Friendly banter I like it!
in my opinion every eastern kingdom had a tough time,
so a gang bang call cant be made only for the reason that every east kingdom got gang banged the whole era.
Nararians oop fought Koh,wof,coa and novus until a cf was struck.
Koh oop fought us and novus until H&S entered as our ally, then they cf coa/novus
then IPF and SPQR joined the war against them.
H&S fought, koh,novus,coa, ipf for a time.
novus fought us,koh, until a cf then H&S and IPF (i think?)
either way fun era guys,
congrats to KoH for a well earned win.
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reading the forums is sometimes more fun then the game :)
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I will make sure to read this once I have a minute, just gotta put the kettle on. Ooh Fred had a nap with you guys, now that I didn't know.
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I will make sure to read this once I have a minute, just gotta put the kettle on. Ooh Fred had a nap with you guys, now that I didn't know.
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yeah its a good read mate :)
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Justin. Your kettle has cooked over... :big-grin:
And yes, this thread is a good one for sure.
BTW: Still no buyers for those damned dragons????? I think I have read somewhere, that they are greatly worshipped in the fareast..............
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mcmax stop trying to throw dragons at people..... those dragons clearly follow KoH rul since they dont come near ;)
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no they dont come near cause the winter has come
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my tea got cold while I was reading this, but man there are some long posts. I do not agree with fred attacking slade after reading the facts. But funnily enough a gang bang didn't really happen against koh as not everyone attacked them at once. Well done for the win stop slaying people on the forums lol. The real heroes are the Hammer and Shielf nubs that got you guys in to a stalemate. Those guys are my players of the era to be honest. For some weird reason valhalla is full of vets. My advice would be to ban all of us with more then 5 era's from this map and leave it to new players. Supposedly the 50% rule protects them but I think that is not good enough. The other mvp is Dalak, he raised an era ending monster army.
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Cao Cao was the stalemate, the other nubs weren't an issue :p
BTW, keep your cooties to yourself :p :p
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stfluff up endless!! we love justanius cooties ;) my pez reveled in it :)
and yes it was only coa and elanor who got us into the stalemate :P.. the rest were easy pickings halfer armies that were slightly good >:P
plus your army.... that was worth less than my pokemon collection hehe :P jk <3
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If TBL's parents didnt do it that one night, things would have been very different. But here we are now. I dont know if i have time to play on valhalla again :(.
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indeed, tbl is a beast... also dalak according to tbl but ive talked to dalak.... i dont buy it :P hehe
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dalaks been using performance enhanced drugs on his archmages. Not my words, its just what I've heard on the street. Keep it hush though, dont tell anyone!
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Justanius, I really wasn't trying to go full-retard asshole on the forums. I was trying to set certain facts straight, especially when it came to some of Sprout's delusions.
Most of KoH, and all of Nararians, Novus and CoA were involved in OOP warring of the heaviest kind. I believe that WoF and Cao Cao from H&S were also involved in OOP warring. KoH were warring TWO kingdoms simultaneously - Nararians and Novus, with intent to win. Practically every one in my kingdom participated in one way or another. Ask the members of the kingdoms we were warring - we forced everyone to drop their farming and fight. This was not a situation where any of us could farm with utter abandon.
Then suddenly, an intervention from the north comes. Cao Cao, who feasted on CoA and WoF OOP, swoops in and destroys my HoH human OOP army with 12K nazzies. H&S and Nararians are clearly allied as Nararians are rebuilding in H&S territory. This forces KoH and Novus to scramble - we NAPped, and try to get everyone's economy back into shape and find a way to delay Cao Cao for as long as possible for our war-elves to emerge. To our delight, Cao Cao did not push his advantage, for if he had just used the momentum behind him, KoH and Novus would now be the ones waiting for the next era to start. We suspected he needed and was waiting mage support for AOTD and from the looks of it, we were right. This bought us time.
So Dalak emerges first and after 72 hours of non-movement from Cao Cao (who had parked his army in a city taken from me), finally comes up with an AM army that, while not able to match Cao Cao's power, could do AOTD hits on Cao Cao's army and force him back. The rest of us are still scrambling our economies. And no word of who IPF and SPQR are warring (they were probably farming their asses off). We surmised that if even one of IPF or SPQR go to war with H&S, it could end up being a somewhat fair era overall.
So while the rest of us in KoH, Novus and CoA were rebuilding / getting our economies into shape, farmed up H&S armies started appearing. Nararians were rebuilding faster than Novus. More of KoH finally fix their economies and started pumping out decent armies. Then Sprout emerges..... at the KoH border! He walked halfway round the map from his end to come to the KoH border. A farmed up IPF were clearly joining H&S' and Nararians' side.
Fine, we said. We tried opening diplomatic channels with SPQR. Their leader and diplomat, Eridisius, never replied to us. Well, at least it is still 50 - 50 on who they will war, we thought. We heard they had started feasting on a rebuilding WoF in the north-west. We were able to force Sprout, who had hit armies from a rebuilding CoA, back north.
Then you (Justanius) emerged with a big nasty looking AM army.
We were telling ourselves, if we do not kill off either one of Cao Cao's or your army, our era is a complete loss for sure. There was no way we could take down two elves and an orc that was (at that time) equivalent to an elf with our recently rebuilt economies and troops. Then a fortuitous series of events happened, you got ensnared by a woman (behind the rise of every great man, is a woman, behind the downfall of every one of them, is a woman too!), and we were able to kill your AM army.
Turning point of the war, we thought. And we also managed to get Dalak a Nararian 200K (as badly built as it was). Then SPQR emerged on our flanks. One elf, two orcs. Having more land than me at that time, and I had 300K of land!
You can imagine the rage that was within me when I saw SPQR coming towards us. You may think there was no gangbanging involved, but all I saw were three farmed up kingdoms and one rebuilding kingdom picking on two kingdoms that fought OOP and one kingdom that was rebuilding.
And I told my kingdomates and myself this..... if we EVER get out of these battles alive and with momentum and advantage on our side.... we will NEVER let the era end on anyone's terms but ours. We will decide when Arma is cast and when the era will end, and before that, we will be going all out to destroy IPF and SPQR, two kingdoms that did not do OOP warring, but teamed up with H&S to take on kingdoms that had been warring since OOP. The key word here was "IF" because we were still not optimistic at that time.
Then McMax and Marcus Aurelius made huge mistakes, we destroyed their armies, chased Sprout north. Dalak wiped out a blocker with 1.2 million men in it, including Cao Cao's army. We were able to destroy most of the farmed up dwarf armies that H&S were throwing at us (caught many of them divided and unmerged). Eros was AOTDing my knights (he did a 195K unit AOTD after the kill on Marcus Aurelius).
The tide had changed. The gangbanged got through the worst time and now have momentum on their side.
And thus, we are currently heading for IPF and SPQR. To show these farmers that folks who have been fighting since OOP can also fight farmers through superior strategies and tactics. That its not all about just farming and coming out with some big ass army 4 weeks into the era. Any noob can pull that off.
That's OUR story as far as KoH are concerned. Been fighting since OOP, been fighting heavily outnumbered, been fighting farmed up kingdoms.
So when Sprout comes with his shit on the forums, it results in a very angry loser making long, rambling rants then! And appearing pretty dumb and retarded at times :D
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Just want to ask, why there is no one bashing novus? lol.. :)
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No one is really bashing KoH either. I'm the one doing the bashing on those guys. And in return, they're bashing me directly. But I am very tough to bash, and when I bash them, I give them a bash of a bash. And I feel so bashful whenever I bash!
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You guys did well/doing well and I agree you guys were gang banged but.....still
,Novus, H&S and us were all gangbanged oop as well so it makes it kind of irrelevant only for the reason being that, that was just how the era went.
I applaud you guys for some great moves to win
My kingdom being very inexperienced and having a bad era
we had to oop Coa, Wof, Koh and novus (we then eventually cf'd novus) with no real core and at the time only 5 members, we were always going to lose to good experienced players,
great learning curve to us
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