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Like Tyrgalon said, its the top two compared to third place and two from the lower half of the Kd list. A little sad but I guess VU is back to how its always been. :) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Well the problem in your theory is that there are absolutely no interaction between Fate and Fear. There are not a single spot on the map where the 2 kds border up to eachother. We, in Fear are waring every single neighbouring kd we got without exeption, and i believe Fate are doing the same. So even if we had a map noone would benefit from it. And certainly all the kds who are waring Fear cant complain. Wort thing we saw was that we had kds actually waring eachother turnarround and nap just becuase we didnt accept their nap / cf offerings. And then afterwords throw themself directly at us as kd nbr 4 and 5 in our war pool. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I know, was just saying why it may have been brought up.
There, I agree with you 100%. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
At the end of the day, some people just like to point fingers and whine about us, no matter what we do. So.. go nuts :) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
well we donīt wanna war eachother when we got the 2nd strongest kd righ next us and its full whit very good players :P its like committing suicide lol. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Its not that I mind the naps, and the eras I have played with you, its true that it wouldnt affect it much if FEAR/FATE napped, I do think its different this era tho with this one map, true you havent reached each other on the map yet, so till now it hasnt mattered, but you will reach and then it be more fun if you warred each other. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
yeah it would be, the problem is just that Fate and FEAR are so strong compared to others due to superior players (and partly numbers) that other kds will just get owned if they donīt nap the other lesser kds... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"Why does it matter? We haven't even run into them yet .." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Fate and Fear should be fighting against each other, not bashing the smaller kds to crap togheter, making fant boring for everyone later on. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
There are no teleport kd option that could have teleported fate and fear close to eachother to make what you are saying happen. I thought i allready pointed it out allready so that it couldnt be misunderstood. We are not bordering eachother at all. Everyone else is bordering us. So to even meet eachother we have to war through everyone. Or what do you expect us to do ? To be napping you so you can have a free ride era just like you dream about ? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
no, I expect you to not nap each other, but start warring when you meet each other at some point. Your not that far away really. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"Fate and Fear should be fighting against each other, not bashing the
smaller kds to crap togheter, making fant boring for everyone later on." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
this trrgalon guy is a fool, weve napped fate yea.... how many guys have you napped? whats your total alliance count? much bigger than our member count yes? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"what do u suggest they do, walk for 48 hours to oop war" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Tyrgalon... shush :p | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
hmm...yeah :P | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Where's AOA? I wanted to see us go for bout 100 VU days then plummet to nothing. :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It shows only those who are on Fantasia scores at the moment. I'm too lazy to change antything :( | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If I'm not mistaken you attacked us | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Out of curiosity, how did you come up with the scores, Heroix? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jade, you should change your name to Gaga next era so you'd be Lady Gaga. :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Oh Jade, you know thats what happens when theres no relations :) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"If I'm not mistaken you attacked us" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@Rage. We dont have any problem with waring you. We did however find it hilarious how you instant napped your oop war and started attacking us instead when we declined your nap requests to us. So practically what is going on in this thread is that your kd mates are whining about whoever we nap, but have absolutely no ability to look themself in the mirror regarding own actions. Your entire argument is that you want us to play 100 % without naps while yourself naps everyone else arround you just becuase we are within 40 ticks of your kd. We didnt even have any current plans to attack you when you ambushed. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Cmon guys... let's all be friends. :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thats a little unfair! Only Tyrgalon was "whining", I was just throwing random, useless comments :P And I had the same argument with the heads earlier in the era so don't look down on the entire Kd for the complaints of a couple people.. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I donīt whine, I argument, I always do that if I think someone is not taking everything into account in a discussion. Not to mention that I didnīt start the discussion ("whining" if you wish). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Wait are you telling me people didnt know Fate an Fear were napped earlier in the era? For gods sake we knew they were gonna NAP at the beginning of era.... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@Wraith, i dont look down on your kd. I think you guys are doing realy good this era. Wich is why it surprices me that some of your members suddenly wanna enter this discussion. Especially considering the nap tactics that you guys used yourself. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mmm, I know I know... Just jumping onto the band wagon, I guess :\ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No Deno, none of our members are trying to enter any discussion. Ive reminded some of them to look at our own relations before making comments in public :P As for my comment about no relations, i was just replying to a statement "you attacked us first". All of you know that is expected when you dont give relations to a kd, so there was no surprise in it and it was hardly an ambush. We all get relations for our own purposes. Some need more then others because of various reasons, but I dont judge anyone on it and im trying to teach some others that as well. Im honored to fight FEAR, i know a lot of the members there and im hoping you guys can teach us a thing or two :P
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I know I was just stating that Tyrgalon shouldn't complain that we're bashing a bunch of smaller kd's who attacked us :) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
read trough what I said better... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That's what I was responding to. I don't see what our relations with Fate have to do with us warring you. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
wait now just a sec... is GOTF a small kd? If you ask me, its as large as FATE and FEAR, only that they may not have had the same success So there is no issue in FEAR fighting GOTF, they are even fighting more kd's except GOTF (Like hema and so on) and what is the point in saying that FEAR and FATE should war? shall they nap every other kd and then run all over the whole map just to meet eachother? It's easier to just war the kd's near you. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ffs canīt people read what I have said before, start from my first post and read on... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I read it but that was the statement I was responding to. You are at war with us and ROC is at war with Fate, so what? I don't see an issue. We are at war with 3 kds you don't see us complaining that our NAP partner is at war with someone else.
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I fail to see the logic in complaining about being in a war with a top kd when you are in fact in a top kd yourself. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Let's have a petition; No NAPS! Everyone war! Fun times for all! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think everyone should nap us. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
why would you complain jade that your nap partner is fighting someone else when they are fighting the same kds you are? lol dunno why this discussion is even going on tbh - everyone pretty much knew it would be a free for all when zeta closed off the world with only a select few kds on fantasia-- and the two biggest were going into it nap'd already that was no surprise. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The problem is that fear and fate naped each other without a good reason, not that we are warring fear or that roc is warring fate... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm not complaining about anything. I was pointing out how stupid it is for Tyrgalon to complain about fighting a top kd when he in fact is in a top kd. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Is there a rule that says we need a *good* reason? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
no ofc you dont need a good reason but i dont think you should post implying that you're in such a spot fighting 3 kds when you know that your nap partner is also fighting them on top of it. Other kingdoms dont have that luxury so ofc its a bitter pill to swallow to realize that fate and fear will double team any other kd out there while early on other kds started wars with other kds foolishly thinking the world might even out a bit thats all.
its the nature of the situation when the map is closed off and so few kds on it to begin with- i dont think anyone is necessarily insulting fate and fear-- because of it are they? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I am complaining of fighting you? no...READ! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No you're complaining that we NAP'd Fate which we do not need a good reason to do. We like them and they are good allies. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm sure that's exactly how it is Quietone but I'm not implying we're in a spot. It's not working out the way people hoped and there isn't much we can do about it now. It never really works out the way we want or plan. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
oi Jade lol you're missing the point entirely- no one is slamming anyone for you guys nap'g each other- the actual point is that logically being so far away from each other any normal kd would have declined a nap relation with a kd so far from them. Since obviously it wouldnt benefit either kd. That being said- Fate and Fear are the biggest kds out there- both in numbers and the exp player base. So for you guys to double team every kd on the map makes it an unfair situation. No one saying anything about you insulting wise... its just an unfair advantage on a map where you're placed with a few small kds other than your allies... the smaller kds start to war ppl next to them and then the big kds just simply topple over them in the process... that is the point no one cares you are buddies with Fate-- that's more than obivous lol no insults are being implied... you're looking for something that isnt there i think or maybe feeling guilty? :P jk!! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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