You donīt deserve it Virgin |
Mr. Andrei The Impaler
3/22/2007 6:34:19 PM | Post
in this thread if you think that Virgin is a false era winner or if you
agree that V spoiled everyones fun.Or just post here to insult me and
tell me what a retarded **** I am .I REALLY DON'T CARE ANYMORE!
| Mr. Auspex
3/22/2007 6:47:12 PM | Wow you're taking a game way too seriously dude. | Mr. Brashen
3/22/2007 7:02:43 PM | "Ohh let me quote myself from the congrats thread.
ts bad enough that its era of Virgin but era of Virgins that would
probleby leave most of us players out, damn but I probleby not
qualified to play a era called that since before Internet.
And
Virgin sorry but ill not give you eny more congrats then I gave to S:t
Paul when he won his ERA the reasons are totally different this time
but its been said before and ill gladly say it again ITS A BLOODY WAR
GAME!!!!!
So for you who just want to build things and then avoid war go play SIM CITY!!!!!!."
Auspex
if you dont take this serius enyway wich you proved time and time again
why not do us all a favor and go and follow my advise above and remove
yourself from the game so we dont have to see you messing it up for us
others who actually like to play it in the way its supposed. | Mr. Auspex
3/22/2007 7:06:57 PM | I
could say it's Visual "Utopia". Maybe Zeta intends for it to be a
peaceful game? Certainly if we couldn't war, KDs would have taken all
our easy Dwarf buildings
Utopia - ideal and perfect state: an ideal and perfect place or state where everyone lives in harmony and everything is for the best | Sir Falazar
3/22/2007 7:08:47 PM | UHm, I am more than willing to play with a world of Virgins, I wouldnt complain much at all really :} Fresh meat in both senses.
| Mr. Andrei The Impaler
3/22/2007 7:31:06 PM | Then
go play that world,but for god's sake,don't say the player who was
first on day 200 something won the era,cause that is just LAME.That is
the perfect word for the whoring Vendetta: LAMERS!!
| Sir Crom
3/22/2007 7:33:01 PM | thats the impaled ,allways out to make friends =) | Mr. Andrei The Impaler
3/22/2007 7:36:31 PM | And
btw my nick is after the Vallachian King "Vlad the Impaler".He used to
impale his enemies,the turks. by shoving a big stick up their ass and
slowing penetrating them to death.THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
DO TO THE LAMERS.for more info,click here. |
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Since Andrei used language that offend some people in naming his thread the admins deleted it.
Nothing eny one can complain about since there are rules against that kind of wordings and we all agreed to them when we signed up even if we did not read it.
But I thought it bether we ceep the flames against Virgin in on thread and the congrats in one thread since we know how smart one of the kingdoms are they will probleby just check the amount of post in the congrats thread and then use it as profe that so meny people that there is posts support their way of playing.
There were atleast 50% of VU supporting arma from what that kingdom say. Funny thing is I not herd even 5% outside their kingdom supporting their statements in the forum.
But since we know how self centered that kingdom is im sure we all can understand how they think that their kingdom is 60% of VU atleast since they cant see much longer then the ........ because .... ohhh darn can someone please continue this thread in a polite way I got some troubles with my wordings atm dont want to crash the censure boot.
(Edited by Mr. Brashen 3/23/2007 2:17:55 AM)
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I think this thread will probably be deleted aswell...but thank you anyhow,Brashen :)
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Virgin was probably the most effective mage in the game this era and
still managed to come out with top hoh armies he deserves it. Whether
or not you liked V's choice in ending the era Virgin deserved the win.
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And I was just having fun.....BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is this the 3rd or 4th thread on this topic?
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Glad to see everyone is having fun :)
I have a certain question though :
Do you personally know Virgin to blame him for winning the era? Can you say he hasn't played a good game this era or doesn't have the skill needed to win an era?
Has he won it by illicit maneuvers? We don't know, couldn't we just give him a hug and say "Congratz dear, come sleep with me!"?
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lol the skill to win this era?
what skill?
whoring and training some armies, having no fight get feeded to cast arma and end it after it not really has started?#
what skill u need for that?
omg
go play tetris
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Here we go again... -sigh-
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I agree that there where no glory in this victory. But he did win. And tbh most eras the winner "didnt deserve it". Most eras some dwarf or halfer pumper won. I come to the conlusion that since "best whorer wins" maybe Virgin is deserving? I'm not saying I like that way to play the game, but then again, its a flaw in the game system, not a flaw in players. Personally I play to have fun, but if someone else plays to win or perhaps that is his idea of fun - who am I to judge him?
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Didnt deserve it..
^^
Maybe in the era he was in Serenity.. yes but now, NO
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whoring and training some armies
Haha i thought id just point out how stupid that was...
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Hehe, Virgin was in IE the era he was in Serinity ^^
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Mr. Doompillz
3/23/2007 10:03:34 AM |
lol the skill to win this era? what skill? whoring and training some armies, having no fight get feeded to cast arma and end it after it not really has started?#
what skill u need for that? omg go play tetris |
oh man you should shut up and be happy they v disbands,we all know it now, the era was to short v did pump and and and but you (lgc)would have been wiped out of the map if the era would have continued.We all know you of lgc could be the "absolute elite",but take a look at yourself and you folks abused what was to abuse so there is realy no need to point fingers again and again!Somehow you are very simple,narrow minded folks :( (Edited by Sir Crom 3/24/2007 2:21:47 PM)
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And yet, somewhere in there that run-on sentence didn't make any sense at all. Odd.
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what's the fuss about an era ending so early. I remember Legacy ended one era early also and what was your thought about that?
If there's something to blame, blame the game for having mechanics that lets you end an era early
(Edited by Mr. Plastic Surgeon 3/24/2007 2:47:57 PM)
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" I remember Legacy ended one era early also and what was your thought about that?"
What a nice vague accusation. Mind to back that up with actual facts?
(Edited by Mr. Nubest 3/24/2007 4:39:17 PM)
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Virgin = Virgin when he was in serenity..
Then he became alot of names, Mugatu was 1 of em.
Not sure if its the same Virgin..
I meant like 5 or 6 eras back, the 1 that draiken won.. with some kind amiracle, 1 city and a HoH army (lots of experience).
Anyways this was a bad era for V, they proved they aint willing to fight a whole era instead ending it soon.
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nubest, its not a vague accusation. I think it was the era after Hansel won. i hope somebody aside from me remembers that era. somehow, its not in the high scores
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Plastic: The era after Hansel won? You're talking of the era of Juchi, then?
Yeah, I remember that era. The round started on the 18th of October, and finished on the 17th of November, which is over 4 weeks of game play.
So how is 4 weeks of game play even remotely comparable to this round, which had just over 1 weeks of game play when arma was cast?
(Edited by Mr. Larry Loverod 3/25/2007 9:01:13 PM)
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im not quite sure if it was the era. anyways,
Juchi scored 347292 in that era making him the number 1 player. That score would have made him number 39 this era. so i doubt that it was 4 weeks. maybe a little less.
Im not defending V. In fact, i didnt like that the game ended early. But my point is its game mechanics. change the game.
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End scores don't reflect comparisons between rounds well, because the formula for round scores change on a regular basis (i.e, army base, experience base, land base, they all have had priority at one time or another). Take for example the era of Draiken, where Saint Paul finished with a score of 136m.
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Congratz to Virgin who made it to 1st place :)
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Andrei, Brashen and all the others who biatch about "whoring". Have you ever stopped to read the OFFICIAL description of the game? If not, you can find a link to it in the new player Guide:
Author |
Message
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VU Admin
11/28/2005 11:05:40 PM | Visual Utopia
is a fantasy web game played in your browser. It has an advanced map
based on asp and javascript, so you do not need any plugins or
downloads to play it! The goal of the game is to grow an empire stronger then everyone elses, using strategy and politics. You
can explore and create new colonies or train armies that you can use to
take over colonies by force. Depending on the terrain, the colonies
will produce resources that you can trade on the market or use for
constructing and training of troops. |
Note, a game of STRATEGY AND POLITICS.
Now, unless your nickname is Dubya, there is a hell of a lot more to both strategy and politics than war. In fact, Zeta specifically mentions a couple of them - exploring and creating new colonies. Nowhere in anything the VU Gods have written is VU described as a "War Game" because it isn't. It's a game of strategy and politics. If you find any strategy that wins you an era, then you deserve it. So, well done Virgin, and Vendetta, for a successful strategy last era :) (Edited by Mr. Donut 3/26/2007 12:37:49 AM)
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This is the most convincing argument yet.
No comment.
I agree with Donut's post.
So, well done Virgin, and Vendetta, for a successful strategy last era :)
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To be honest, I don't think there is much merit to the statement. Knowing ZeTa, he probably spent 5 minutes thinking up a generic description of the game. ;)
Undoubtedly, it is a war game, seeing as it's almost entirely focused in that direction. It's a bit like civilisation, that is to say "strategy and politics" is simply an advertising tool, you have the option to explore, and to expand, but what makes the game is the conflict, and the fighting.
Not that I agree with the anti-Virgin sentiment. I'm not all that bothered about who wins, it's just their lying that has miffed me. :)
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Hey It's a draw, all kds in top ten can be considered winners, no one clearly dominated this era!!!!!!!
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few, I feel relieved now :)
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Larry, you can't really say the game is focussed that way. Plenty of
people have demonstrated over the eras that if (and it's a big if) you
manage to farm all era without interruption, you can get a very high
score.
War is just one of the things that the game makes available - what
"focuses" it towards war is the inclination of the players to play it
that way. The war element only comes about because Player One sees
Player Two's town and decides he wants to take it rather than building
his own, then Player Three jumps in to help Player Two by punching
Player One, and so on.
Maybe, for all the role-play elements, it's not so different from rl after all ;)
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Adelbert whored the entire era under the protection of Legacy securing the number one position didn't he? Even though he left at the end pissing off a lot of people... :)
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i do not understand what this is all about i beleieve because you didnt have fun you should ruin it for everyone else?? auspex got very strong right away casted armageddon and new era..... if you do not like how the game is being run then dont play. dont complain because you coulnt do so well.
GRATS AUSPEX FOR ARMA AND GRATS VIRGIN FOR MOST POWERFUL RULER!!
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Donut's statement gives much sense... The War-Game is created by the players, not Zeta...
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If Vendetta and Virgin in it are such farmers, then it could not be difficult to destroy their arma town. SO people, if you don't like it, don't whine but do something.
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o plz, virgin is a great player, this era and last. stop cryining about the fact that you didnt win
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Lelouch--- who are you that you remember back that far? From what I've heard you were supposed to be a new player only 2 eras in....... sounds a bit suspicious to me you sure do reference alot of VU history in your posts for a new player.......why dont you enlighten us as to who you really are eh? :)
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Uhhh... hmm...
I read so really old threads on the bottom of the forums?
I'm sure lots of people remember that far back, it's not like when you're born and you don't remember your childhood.
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It's strange. Our former truly foes on the battlefield say V won and they congrats us for the win. Everybody else...who didn't take part to the fighting say we whored and cheated and things. That's really strange. This makes me think that the only adversaries in here are also the only adults in the game. One and Only, DE, Hells Wraith, Jesters... never heard them complaining about us winning the game. And look who's talking. Our beloved Draculla who's face i haven't seen a whole (short) era??? what gives you this right? And what gives Mr. The Viking the right to take this victory away from it's rightfull owner? Think twice mates. and grow up...just a bit...not much
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Bobson: If you consider your "true foes" a bunch fo scattered, miniscule kingdoms that had moved over from mantrax onto fantasia that era, and if you consider beating them some is great feat, then I really do feel for you.
Nobody wants to congratulate a kingdom that doesn't deserve it. The majority of veterans who have seen real wars, and real era winners, agree that your win was a shallow, if not non-existant one. It isn't we aren't "adults", it isn't we can't admit defeat -- we've all been defeated at one point or another and admitted it, but nobody considers V to be a good kingdom.
Try take on the likes of LGC (no, removing a handful of armouries LGC had outside your core, that they couldn't fill with peasants from their mines nearby, unlike you, doesn't constitute a victory. Getting into the LGC core and destroying LGC, which you didn't, does), or MAD, or Abydos, or PHI, or Carnage, take on well established, warring kingdoms like them, then you can have your "victory". But you didn't, you got into a fight with LGC you knew you couldn't win, then casted arma and ended the round, furthering the doubts in peoples minds about V.
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let's be honest and not forget the Bless bug.
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Bobs, I thought I was sticking up for V as well, but in case I wasn't clear enough.....
HH, the game is about having the strongest empire, when the era ends, by whatever tactics that takes.
If you're so narrow minded that the only way you can understand to do that is to be big and tough and make everyone in the playground run away from you, then you obviously won't understand that what V did was:
1) within the rules, 2) didn't involve any abuses or "dishonourable" play, 3) resulted in them winning the era.
That makes it a good win within the letter, and spirit, of the game.
The fact they chose a different route to it than you would simply shows that they have more imagination than you :)
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Surprising how much you svck up to them after they only used you as a buffer on their exposed flank, eh Donut? We won't forget.
We pitied and pardoned you once, but not again.
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Mr Hungrier Horse, let try to see some things clearly here.
1. The strongest kd we had near our core was Carnage. We Napped them. Now can you call that a bad strategy? Should we have fought them to get wome recognition? And a recognition as what? As successful warmongers? We prefer to be good strategists.
2. LGC was set up in the other part of the map. Trying to attack them would be pointless. Until our armies got there, they would be too weak. If we made an armoury setup near their core, we would also be defeated. Do you agree with that? So that would also be a bad strategy on our account.
3. LGC with all their arrogance tried to make such an armoury setup near our core, thinking they would intimidate us. Don't get me wrong, they're very good, the best kd in fantasia, but they went off their limits trying to do that. So thats bad strategy on their account, am I correct?
4. After having beaten the LGC armouries, we didn't have any worthy foes in our area. Should we have continued Arma would only lead us fight some very weaker kd's. Would THAT be an honourable act from us? I don't think so. We believed the era was pretty much decided on 100-51-34 and no other kingdom could claim to be any stronger than us. So the era was over already for us. That's why we stopped Arma.
5. The era was decided in the first two or three days, when we developed so much faster than onlyU and we took all their cities in our area. It's as simple as that. Their cities gave us a big headstart and we got #1 from then on without any threat.
These are the facts. Now, if anyone considers winning a war heavier than a winning strategy, let him go play an FPS instead of this ...
(Edited by Mr. Androgeos 3/28/2007 6:46:11 PM)
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"LGC with all their arrogance tried to make such an armoury setup near our core, thinking they would intimidate us."
"After having beaten the LGC armouries, we didn't have any worthy foes in our area."
Boy, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Tell you what And. Take that nice attitude of yours, and go fight Phi or MAD. You'll be surprised, then again, I'm thinking you don't have the balls to square of*beep*ainst any sort of fighting kd.
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...in our area
...in our area
...in our area!
Learn to read, please! All these kd's were in the other edge of the map. The only ones around us were Carnage (napped), PKS (napped), Dorian (10% of our power) and Abydos (two map tiles away - around 30% of our power).
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Now whose fault is that? Let's think here. Hmmm. Yours.
Ok.
PKS is a good kingdom, slippery little buggers. Abydos was close to you all and could put up a good fight on their own. And once again, the term 'worthy' (in case you're blind and missed the boldness of the word), implies that you're arrogant and figured due to the fact you all whored so much and had a higher percentage, that nobody is even worth your time to fight. There was plenty of fighting availible to you all, you just CHOSE not to go after it.
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now having good economy is whoring....having a good army is whoring... fighting is whoring... i love this... no comment
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;-) You just don't like the fact I'm extremely turned on and need something the erm... 'mess' over.
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