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Religious Extremist terror
21:17:08 Jul 30th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

sakaal ,

god said : " god is the light of the skies and the earth " . god is always truly say

meaning , god is like the sun , he is the centre , centre of all the things , which they are thanking him , but we don't understand as god say

 " everything is thanking but you don't understand his thanking , and the man was less thanking " god is always truly say

cuz god prefer us on all creatures , they all now say , thank you thank you , but we can't though we are more intelegent from them


21:22:03 Jul 30th 07 - Sir Kelnos:

(Mbeidas) Prince...

Please understand that it is not your duty to try and convert or reiterate things that you have already said a million times.  Many people are very confortable with their beliefs... and just constantly rehashing old things you have said will not change that.

 


21:36:19 Jul 30th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

that's what it look like

we walk on our fathers relegion


21:36:19 Jul 30th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

give more jokes ?


21:54:37 Jul 30th 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

Alright, this conversation was gettin' too serious anyways so...two jokes!

In the beginning, God created the earth and rested.

Then God created Man and rested.

Then God created Woman. Since then, neither God nor Man has rested.

 

 

Bill Gates suddenly dies and finds himself face to face with God.
God stood over Bill Gates and said, "Well Bill, I'm really confused
on this one. It's a tough decision; I'm not sure whether to send
you to Heaven or Hell. After all, you helped society enormously
by putting a computer in almost every home in America, yet you
also created that ghastly Windows '95 among other indiscretions.
I believe I'll do something I've never done before; I'll let you
decide where you want to go."

Bill pushed up his glasses, looked up at God and replied,
"Could you briefly explain the difference between the two?"
Looking slightly puzzled, God said, "Better yet, why don't
I let you visit both places briefly, then you can make your
decision. Which do you choose to see first, Heaven or Hell?"

Bill played with his pocket protector for a moment, then looked
back at God and said, "I think I'll try Hell first." So, with a flash
of lightning and a cloud of smoke, Bill Gates went to Hell.

When he materialized in Hell, Bill looked around. It was a
beautiful and clean place, a bit warm, with sandy beaches and
tall mountains, clear skies, pristine water, and beautiful women
frolicking about. A smile came across Bill's face as he took in a
deep breath of the clean air. "This is great," he thought, "if this
is Hell, I can't wait to see heaven."

Within seconds of his thought, another flash of lightning and
a cloud of smoke appeared, and Bill was off to Heaven. Heaven
was a place high above the clouds, where angels were drifting
about playing their harps and singing in a beautiful chorus.
It was a very nice place, Bill thought, but not as enticing as Hell.

Bill looked up, cupped his hands around his mouth and yelled for
God and Bill Gates was sent to Hell for eternity.

Time passed, and God decided to check on the late billionaire to
see how he was progressing in Hell. When he got there, he found
Bill Gates shackled to a wall in a dark cave amid bone thin men
and tongues of fire, being burned and tortured by demons.

"So, how is everything going?" God asked.

Bill responded with a crackling voice filled with anguish and
disappointment, "This is awful! It's nothing like the Hell I
visited the first time!! I can't believe this is happening!
What happened to the other place....with the beaches and the
mountains and the beautiful women?

"That was the demo," replied God.

 


22:45:39 Jul 30th 07 - Mr. Breadlord:

lol im gues windows 95 Demo suxed??


22:55:46 Jul 30th 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

Nah, the Demo was nothing like the actual windows 95, which stinked


23:01:51 Jul 30th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

lol , yea .

well i maybe look on this topic every week , i maybe back to the game in the first of september.

good luck all ,


23:31:27 Jul 30th 07 - Mr. Chamillionaire:

Thats good..


03:12:40 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

not laughing , later


03:53:31 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Chamillionaire:

I wasent talking to you prince.

Lets D-rail

 

Here is 50 Cent

 

Here is The Game

 

 

And here is Chamillionaire

 

Debate


04:42:43 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Squiddy:

Religion is a belief which helps others some of the true meanings of life. I like that side, it's everything else I hate.

I'm atheist and always will be. I don't object to other people having their own beliefs as that's all it is, a belief. Atheism and Scientology are the ways forward.

If you believe in something fine, but to start wars over it, to cause so much death and depression around the world, is insane and I to be honest would rather live without Religion. If it were to be then finally man kind would be able to advance as one instead of advancing individually because it is only then that people will stop thinking about how they can spread their beliefs as opposed to allowing the competing religions to spread theirs. Instead of worrying about that they can focus their huge amounts of resources on doing worthwhile things like curing cancer and ending poverty.

If there is only one God, then why does it matter? Why must you kill those that don't believe in 'your' God, because if there is only one then he isn't going to be worried and he certainly wouldn't 'tell' people through dreams or other such nonsense to what has been done in times gone by.


05:28:33 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

mate , 50 cent , can anybody give him anther 2 qurters , so he can be a dolar ,

yea and don't say always be , you'll see


08:14:19 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Sakaal II:

Scientology is a money-making machine. Otherwise it would not be based on a proprietary system that is protected by trademarks and copyrights. If you are practicing Scientology, you are basically buying someting produced by a commercial company. Their concept of "thetan" is basically an imaginary, supernatural being that I strongly object. I find it extremely insulting some people are making money teaching others this nonsense.

Atheism usually means the belief in the nonexistence of gods, but many (if not most) atheists, including me, do not believe in any supernatural beings. For example, I do not believe in ghosts, astral bodies, or the Scientologists' theta.

Scientology may offer "a way forward", but it is a very expensive way, and equally or even more misleading than many of the mainstream religions.


09:06:26 Jul 31st 07 - Sir Bruto Cikayson:

Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless :)

Title: Cake - Building A Religion lyrics

Artist: Cake

Visitors: 5934 visitors have hited Building A Religion Lyrics since Feb 12, 2007.

Print: Cake - Building A Religion Lyrics print version

We are building a religion,
We are building it bigger
We are widening the corridors and adding more lanes
We are building a religion.
A limited edition
We are now accepting callers for these pendant keychains
To resist it is useless,
It is useless to resist it
His cigerratte is burning but it never seems to ash
He is grooming his poodle
He is living comfort eagle
You can meet at his location but you'd better come with cash

Now his hat is on backwards. He can show you his tattoos
He is in the music buisness he is calling you "DUDE!"

Now today is tomorrow and tomorrow's today
And yesterday is weaving in and out
And the fluffy white lines that the airplane leaves behind
Are drifting right in front of the waning of the moon

He is handling the money. He's serving the food
He knows about your party. He is calling you "DUDE!"

Now, do you believe in the one big sign?
The double wide shine on the boot hills of your prime
Doesn't matter if you're skinny. Doesn't matter if you're fat.
You can dress up like a sultan in your onion-head hat

We are bulding a religion. We are making a brand
We're the only ones to turn to when your castles turn to sand
Take a bit of this apple, Mr. Corporate Events
Take a walk through the jungle of cardboard shedies and tents
Some people drink pepsi. Some people drink coke. (coke)
The wacky morning d.j. says democracy's a joke.

He says now, "Do you believe in the one big song?"
He's now accepting callers who would like to sing along
He says, "Do you believe in the one true edge?"
By fastening your saftey belts and stepping towards the ledge

He is handling the money. He is serving the food.
He is now accepting callers. He is calling me "DUDE!"

Do you believe in the one big sign?
The double wide shine on the boot hills of your prime.
There's no need to ask directions if you ever lose your mind
We're behind you. We're behind you.
And let us please remind you
We can send a car to find you
If you ever lose your way

We are bulding a religion...
We are bulding it bigger...
We are building............... a religion.......
A limited edition
We are now accepting callers for these beautiful pendant keychains

---------------

I agree with what you're saying, Sakaal.  Progress/science too often is only found where cash is readily available.

Take alternative energies, for example.  High gas prices means high research.  But when the gas price goes down and the panic ends, that research is cut or abandoned, on the whim of the oil corporations...

"Conspiracy theories? Sorry I did not understand your question, Bruto."

Have you ever seen the videos and documentaries about the 9/11 conspiracies, which use opinions and misplaced quotes and evidence to make a statement, claiming that they know the truth and that every American not supporting them is being tricked by the government?

"but like I said, I believe the religious so-called "true believers" will be a clear minority some day."

Some could argue that this is already true today.  My point was, however, that even if true believers become a minority all it will take is another dark age to reverse this once more.

"Not only this... but Aristotle, Plato, Socrates...etc.  Were actually supported by the church and their works were considered required reading in church run schools for hundreds of years.  Of course this changed over time, as everything does.  But the church did not burn their books and works on site as some I am sure would believe."

You must consider this, though:

The early Greek writings were absorbed into Roman culture.  These writings, along with the Roman writings, made their way into the Roman churches, and thus preserved as much to cultural influences than as for scientific and academic purposes.

"In fact a globe had been in existence for years before he even attempted this feat.  And if the church had been an all encompassing block against progress... this would not have occured."

Columbus set sail in 1492, which is, argueably, early Renaissance.  Thus the church did not have the final authority as it did in the dark and middle ages.  Also, keep in mind who funded Columbus and why--Ferdinand and Isabella for the sake of, you guessed it, money.

"Some of the greatest minds were actually part of the church that everyone seems to dislike so much here."

Correct, but how much choice did one truly have?  The church taught them and the church gave them the supplies to perform experiments.  If not sponsored by the church, the same activity could be labeled as witchcraft and have the person burned and their research destroyed.


09:11:32 Jul 31st 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

Columbus set sail in 1492, which is, argueably, early Renaissance.  Thus the church did not have the final authority as it did in the dark and middle ages.  Also, keep in mind who funded Columbus and why--Ferdinand and Isabella for the sake of, you guessed it, money.

Nah, The King of Spain was angry at Columbus for doing his wife so he agreed to send him and thought we would fall off the end of the Earth! (lol)


12:38:06 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Mijamoto Mushashi:

breadlord,    sure, take away the context,  don't say that i just change words and copy anotherones posts, that some things are just a caricature (sorry if you can't grasp that) ...    

i hate? i'm violent?    i can only say :  reread my posts :-p

give me lousy arguements, and i'll give you back the same.   sorry, if you feel that you can't argue my points.   (i know i'm not the best debater, that's why i let sakaal do the talking, he has more patience than me with those 'god'-worshippers)(not that he's right on everything, imo, but mainly he makes sense, gives accurate info, etc, unlike some others in here)(i give back the same bs, that others post, give it a twist about odin, show you how ridiculous the arguement is ... suck it up, i'd say)

you may also know that i have rl-friends which believe different things (christians, muslims, atheist),  i respect them, as they respect me,  we know what we think and feel and have been 'fighting' over this aswell.      they will not give up their faith, but they can also not refute my points.       normal people oppose war and hate, so do i, and my friends  ... however,  everyone wants to be happy, have kids and and family and prosper, no matter where you live, or what you believe in.   we all have to take down our pants to go to the toilet, it hurts if someone dies (not one religion will stop that).

again, look further, don't be blind ... no religion will solve worldproblems, all they do is polarise, break unity ... we are humans, all alike ...


20:22:24 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Sakaal II:

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

- John Lennon

(Personally I agree all the other parts with Mr. Lennon, but I believe possessions are necessary. ;)


20:26:07 Jul 31st 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

Yes, or else some guy would just walk up and steal my computer, starting the whole murdering thing again...


23:26:52 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Chamillionaire:

 

Less see if ya'll can debate wit broken jaws


23:29:31 Jul 31st 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

*Septim calls the police. They come and take him away...


23:48:35 Jul 31st 07 - Mr. Chamillionaire:

 

Now, after the police leave 2 other members of G-unit jump septim and start beating the *beep* outta him!!


00:39:42 Aug 1st 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

*They kill Septim and another Septim walks up.

"Hello, I am Septim-114"


09:40:36 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

Mr. Sakaal II

Report


7/31/2007 10:22:24 PM
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

- John Lennon

(Personally I agree all the other parts with Mr. Lennon, but I believe possessions are necessary. ;)

 

 

imagine you go hell ,

and suffer for etrnal ,

the thing you think

it's smart

will blow us all

the world will still as it is

it's the deffernces we born for ,

 

if you want to do what you say

don't blame all the humans on this

every one have a choise

and remeber your dead in the end

go heavens better to you

at least better than hell

meet god as you meet a king

 

 

and remeber your dead in the end

 

by me alexander the great , well i am chrition , and i think that man should change his poem ,

yea , chritions and jews think that hell is in the earth , but muslims thinks that hell saround the paradise , it's like the flower

yea , chrtitions and jews think that you go heaven or hell after you die , but muslims think that your spirit wait in the earth till the judgment day ,

that's what prince told me


13:12:27 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Goldmeister:

Religion is already being taught as Symbolism, there are a few people who take it literally and those who do really are *beep*s. I'm Religious, I don't take things literally I just use it as I guide and most of the stuff that is said makes sense when used in this way.

These stories were a way of explaining for people 2000 years ago how and why things happened. They didn't all have education or Science so they turned to Stories to help get a relatively simple idea across to the uneducated masses.

By the way, according to Christianity there is no hell hell is a story that was created to scare children into behaving. There is Purgatory, the place you go to have your soul cleansed before you go to heaven. Everything you did on earth will effect how long it takes for you to reach heaven. If you were really good and kind you would go straight through to heaven but if your evil you may spend a while in purgatory. So will people please stop talking about hell in this thread! It doesn't exist although it has been accepted into the Church over time because of popular belief.


14:07:04 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

lol mate your lieing , cuz if that is true , you can do anything without any warning , the earth will destroyed man , if ther is no hell , every one will say , oh i can whatever i want


14:16:07 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Mijamoto Mushashi:

you can do anything you want ... religious or not ...

it's not because you believe in a 'god', that you automatically become a good person ...    if anything, you'll get used, in all your naivity, by some dude saying that he's representing 'god'.

take responsibility for your actions, instead of hiding behind some interpretable stories.


11:52:02 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Goldmeister:

You have fun with that Alex, there is no hell according to the bible, read it from start too finish and you wont find a mention anywhere. People could do whatever they like but they'd probably be arrested and spend the rest of their life in jail, then they'd have a very long wait to get into heaven Anyway, people have a right to believe what they want without fear of judgment. Mijamoto you need to be more open minded, religion is a guide to help us archive a perfect world, infact if everyone believed in the same religion and followed its guidelines to the exact we would live in a near perfect society. People in religions do take responsibility for their own actions they don't hide behind their gods, people do things in the names of their gods but never hide behind them, these people who take the stories of religion literally are the ones who give the rest of the people in that religion a bad name.


12:16:32 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Ghouma:


14:45:43 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Mijamoto Mushashi:

lol, i need to be openminded :-)     that's a good one :-p


16:27:21 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Anatoliy Grushkov:

religion opiates the masses.


16:29:12 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

ghoma , i bet you people are gonna say that is arabic man cuz he is killing a fish , or at least want money for not kill it ,


17:26:14 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Mijamoto Mushashi:

why would he be arabic? because he's black?


14:13:15 Aug 3rd 07 - Mr. Breadlord:

its true you guys are blinded by the media.
like your like looking at things and if tehy are dangerous and they shine this massive light right into your eyes. :P


18:49:01 Aug 3rd 07 - Mr. Mijamoto Mushashi:

if you were defending the bible, i would 'attack' you just the same, and i could give you a thousand examples of abuse ...


18:58:19 Aug 3rd 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

A hippie dies and goes to the Pearly Gates. St. Peter looks him up, and says, "I'm sorry, but you'll be going down to Hell." The hippie, astounded, peers through the gates and sees God walking in the distance.

"God!" he says. "What gives? Remember that time I was tripping on acid? I saw you, and you said we'd be in Heaven together forever!"

God thought for a minute, then said, "Oh yeah, but I was drunk."


00:07:55 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

wtf wtf wtf , i know this is not the thing we are talking about

but if those *beep*es of america touch alkiaba , all muslims will die for it , if we die , then you will see the guardian birds as chritions saw it before ,

 i swer on the koran , if that *beep* in america do anything , the treatment between will be canceled , and the churches of jerusalem will be burnt ,

alkiaba is more important from any fuking church , kos emo

fuken son of the hooker , will be killed ,

 

i heard in the news , that an american stupid , ( omg all of them are stupids ) that he is threating if anything happen in america , america will hit alkiba ,

if alkiba is down almhdy will come and muslims will rule the world ,

both are better for us , as the fighting is , the paradise or the victory


00:10:06 Aug 4th 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

I'm not the son of a hooker, phew!


00:10:49 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

who in hell talked to you ?

i wasn't talk about your joke , fuke you with your joke


00:13:13 Aug 4th 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

Well the hell with you and your absence of a sense of humor too!


00:16:05 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

what sence of humor , god is drunk hahaha , i am not laughing ,

i was talking about a thing and you just said i am not son of hooker , it looks like your mom is a hooker , and you just denied that , and i wasn't speak with you ,


00:16:52 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

exactly septim exactly ,


00:18:46 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Mijamoto Mushashi:

i thought i was the violent hating one?  ;-)

enough said,  mbeidas proves sakaal's point :-p   well done :-)


00:26:40 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Dakarius:

A week later and the debate still continues off topic. (not that I mind, I rather enjoy religeous debates)


00:35:11 Aug 4th 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

What about the jokes I tell? (lol)


01:47:59 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

well ......  alkiaba is a a very important thing , after 7 skies upon alkiba ther is anther kiba and ther is 70000 angel around it , and upon that ther is the paradise , and upon it ther is the thrown of god .


01:50:59 Aug 4th 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

and upon that is God and upon that is a bowl of chicken wings, and upon that is some teriaki dip!


03:40:11 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

actually , that is the place wher god wanted to put his command in and so we call , the holy end , god wanted to make that place ends of his owning , cuz he own everything , though the universe is like only a sand of a beatch of what god own


05:22:37 Aug 4th 07 - Sir Bruto Cikayson:

"i heard in the news , that an american stupid , ( omg all of them are stupids ) that he is threating if anything happen in america , america will hit alkiba ,"

If Americans are all "stupids" then Muslims are all fanatic, mindless terrorists.

If we go back on topic, all you are doing is giving further examples that Muslims perform extremist religious terror.


05:51:09 Aug 4th 07 - Mr. Prince of Darkness:

Arabic Phase : he hit and cried , and then he ran to judge and complained and when i told him that he is the one who start , he just changed the subject .

well , george bush is the president and he is stupid , i think more than 50 % of americans are stupid then cuz they elected him , how's so ?

don't you say israel defend itself , well we are defending too , i already said more than 10 countries belong to us are taken by NETO power , and so 3 of them is taken by america .

mindless  , woow looks like our hand made bombs just was more power than your nucler power , 

bruto , i remeber that you said you don't know what is the eastern roman empire , how can i chat with you ?

 

well if you are american , i would just say , that george washenton or that man on cent was called terorist by briton judge , so how you feel now .

i just said if anything happen to alkiaba , don't blame me , i live in jerusalem , and the tomb of fake jesus will be burn , the treatment will be off ,

 

little history ,

when crusades was fought by salah aldin AKA saladin , one of the chrition commanders was unrespected he killed some muslims piligrames , he built some ships , and sailed to alkiba , lukly a message arrived to eygpt ruler , brother of saladin and he fought and win ,

that man was the only commander saladin killed him from the jailed kings .

now when saladin entered jerusalem , he said that each man don't  want to be slave he must pay a little tax , the funny thing is that the brother of saladin freed over 8000 man and woman , and the saints , and all those rich  chrition people didn't pay for those who was poor .

just saying kiba is a red line , and i am threating i live in jerusalem , how easy to enter , and how easy to start a fire .

so keep it likes this , call this terorist , but you are the people who started


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