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gaius i cant stop lauging , lol

i liked the helen thing

sorry i can't find it , maybe it happened because the defference of the time , i put it before 3 hours when i made my account , i dont know yours ,

ok , so what should i write a lol when i read it ,

if islam didn't say that betting is wrong i would bet you

how you know did you try it ?

do you know how the friends of mohamad remain on his side ?

when mohamad is walking in the street , all trees and mountains tell him  "peace on you , messanger of god " imagine it ,

mohaamd was not followed by 12 member only as jesus , 100,000 muslim saw that ,

why your so cruel on yourself ? , blackness , lol it's the flames in hell

i should close them every 5 seconds

when do they fight lol ?

even when some people after mohamad's death , they agreed to not make muslims blood between them and end the war , and unite again ,

faerytales , come on , if the man was good , the worms wont eat him nor the earth , the earth will send him a man to stay with him till the judgment day , if he was good he will get a good man to talk with , if he was bad he will get a bad man make him suffer , before he will suffer in hell ,

if we opened mohamad grave you would see he is gone  , but cuz we couldn't , for respect , we found that his hair , his hair imagine , a thing wont grow without a head , is living , and you can google this , ( the hair was put in the musium after they made some tests )

accept the reality , you don't belive in god , say sorry , and be his friend , remeber he found you good parents , and give you things you cant count

again you are justifying war and pain, because of a  'god' and some stories.

and if your god makes all equal, then it means he didn't seperate any groups ... see how you are changing things to your convenience?   (=contradiction)

but the only difficulty you have is , that there is no paradise or hell, or god ...

you can't blame god for things you do, he's not responsable for your actions ... becuase, again, there is no god, only human wishfull thinking.

your god is not responsable for wath any religious mind says or does, only people are responsable,   nothing divine about that, except, you can't hide behind lies.

Greeks - Busy coming up with stupid reasons to go to war

"Hey, you stole Helen! Thats it! Gather the troops!"

that wasnt the real reason the went to war they went because of the ocean they sailed across to get there was the major trade sea so if they had troy and used it for trade then their economic worth would rise 500%

lmao

HEY! Why didn't you say something about me? I fee left out...This would have sufficed:

Sir Gaius Septim, STOP POSTING!!!!

Sir Tiber Septim II 7/9/2007 12:40:49 PM

I was thinking about this topic for a long while...and who says that God's name is God, what if it is Charlie or Harold or Jimmy or something else that nobody can even pronounce? Who had to say his name was God, and for the thousands of years before this mysterious higher power called God was ever spoken of, were the Greeks wrong about the Gods of Olympus, were the Egyptians wrong about Ra and the other Gods? Don't get mad at me everybody, they were all covered over and stamped as mythology, will that happen to the Earth's current religions too? Don't get mad at me, I'm not saying I don't believe in him/her/it/that/whatever the mysterious higher power is called, I'm just saying that there are many things to look at.

Well...this was my opinion a while ago...I'll have to think a bit before I can give out an opinion on what we are currently talking about....

Eh...I don't want to get into this discussion so I'll just listen and add little funny things to each one (Which is what I am good at...sort of)

...fine...

In the beginning, God created heaven and earth.

Shortly thereafter God was in receipt of a notice to show cause why he shouldn't be cited for failure to file an environmental impact statement. He was granted a temporary planning permit for the project, but was stymied by a Cease and Desist Order for the earthly part.

At the hearing, God was asked why he began his earthly project in the first place. He replied that he just liked to be creative.

Then God said, "Let there be light."

Officials immediately demanded to know how the light would be made. Would it require strip mining? What about thermal pollution?

God explained that the light would come from a huge ball of fire, and provisional approval was granted with the proviso that no smoke would result.

The authorities demanded the issuance of a building permit, and (to conserve energy) required that the light be left off half the time. God agreed, saying he would call the light "Day" and the darkness "Night." Officials replied that they were only interested in protecting the environment, not in semantics.

God said, "Let the earth bring forth green herb and such as many seed."

The EPA agreed, so long as only native seed was used.

Then God said, "Let waters bring forth creeping creatures having life; and the fowl that may fly over the earth."

Officials pointed out this would require approval from the Department of Game coordinated with the Heavenly Wildlife Federation and the Audubongelic Society.

Everything went along smoothly until God declared that he intended to complete the project in six days.

Officials informed God it would take at least 200 days to review his many waiver applications and environmental impact statements. After that there would have to be a public hearing, and then there would be a 10-12 month probationary period before....

At this point, God created Hell.

god said : " if i say to somthing to be , it be ".

god is always truly say ,

god said : " he  created the heavens and the earth in six and in the seven he sat on the thrown , to teach the people the patiant  " .

god is always truly say ,

he could say to all that happen , in a second , but he tought us patiant

god said : " every thing is saying thank lord , but you dont understand the voice " .

god is always truly say

1 ) shark belives in god .

2) i told you dont say a joke about the subject , and even , god didn't make anybody sees him on earth only is skies , and only man did see him in skies and returned earth is mohamad , if a man only hear the voice of the god as moses he will be beliver ,

god like people morethan sharks , and so he wont give that order , god like us more than angels , as muslim , i would say , you wanted me to laugh on the atheist people but i wont , cuz i belive in God  , ok septem you looks like already get your self 140 year in hell

ps: ( every day of them is a thousend year ) ( every joke or bad talking about god is 70 year judged )

prince , you talk in honor , i like that . :D

lmfao septim, you can always mail me your jokes :P

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Mr. Sakaal ,Out of my whole argument, you pick this line:  As for the internet, I do not trust that as much as the other 2 cause anyone with a computer and key board can put up a site., to debate for almost half a page. This has absolutely nothing to do with the wider scope of the debate of east and west. So therefore I conclude that you must not have anything left in your intellectual arso-nal to rebut my statements on the wider issue of this topic. As to your clam that it’s not normal to list this many sources in an argument. As I said before you cannot develop an intellectual and informed opinion after just reading/watching one book or one doc. You have to read a multitude of book and watch a wide range of Docs to develop an intellectual and informed opinion. And before I forget; I’m not saying the internet is a bad source…sorry , medium of information. It can actually be a great and reliable if know what sites are respected and what sites not to visit.(same foe books) But that being said your clam of books in general being a less reliable source/medium of information then the internet is a joke. My involvement in this thread is just about over and I personally think that politics/religion especially where someone is accusing one religion or political position of being more evil/worse/stupid then another should not be allowed on a game forum such as this where the objective is really just to become a better player at the game, make great friends and most of all have fun due to the fact that there are people in almost all cases who are bound to get there feelings hurt. I have learned a lot of this thread. (Which lead me to conclude my final analysis) As to you all I hope you have a great life, accept people for who they are and do not judge some one on there political or spiritual choices because there is more to everyone then those two elements

 -Good Night And Good Luck

actually god gave me some benfits , cuz i tried to make you belive in him , and so

Just to make it clear, Chamillionaire, I did pick another point earlier. The fact that you first present explicit figures of the number of people killed in US "covert action" and then go on arguing that no-one can really know the numbers, because they are from covert action, shows that your line of argument is nothing less from identical to that of Beidas.

While language proficiency is clearly not the problem in your case, you could as well argue that the existence of God is proven by the fact that it cannot be disproved. Then you go on listing literary references just like Beidas lists his religious quotes. Don't you see that in your writing you two follow a strikingly similar pattern? Even the same sarcasm--not to mention the same contempt! Indeed to me it seems almost like if Beidas suddenly learned English and maybe took some classes in contemporary world politics, yet retaining the same emotional stance and the same fundamental mode of reasoning, both of which I have already grown tired of over the course and agony of this incessant rope pulling contest.

Mr. Prince of Darkness, I can promise you that you are not going to hell. And I don't have to be a god to make that promise.

nobody goes to hell,

they go to 'walhalla' :-p

lol nice one , although , it's against my relegion rules , but it dont put my in relegion bad picture

it's your opinion

what you make fun of god , god said who make fun of him , will get 70 years in hell , and he also told us , that if we fasting in ramdan , each day will give us reward which is 70 year in hell will be out ,

1 ) god is almighty , and you call him childlike , are you crazy mate , and god have sense of humor ,

god said : " did you hear of hobal or did you see oza , or that mona the other third . "

god is always truly say

hobal , oza , mona , are stones people in mecca used to worship them , and god made fun of them cuz they are much , and give no use ,

one of god names is , the friendly

and cuz you said childlike , one of his names is , grown up , knows and dont need to be tell

God went through awful lot trouble creating us and everything, even the heaven and hell so that he can first play around with us and then punish us anyway he pleases. He might as well have created grown up wellbehaving people so he wouldn't have to go through all that trouble.

God is like a scizophrenic playing with some puppets. In short his script is something like this: "Damn you, you've been naughty. Now I have to spank you." ... "Oh no, oh no, don't spank me!"  .. "Yes I will. And btw you are going to hell." .. "Oh nooo eeeks, I'll be good if I don't have to go to hell".

He can't have too much imagination if this childish black-and-white heaven-vs-hell story really was the best he could come up with.

Or then again maybe it was just some parents trying to make their children behave. So they invented stories of gods for their children. But, to the horror of the parents the kids actually still believed in these stories even after they had grown older... I think that is how gods were created in the first place. That done, the development from polytheism to monotheism happens basically through a similar process that is comparable to standard mergers and acquisitions strategies of today. Of course the merging of religions and traditions is much slower than that of modern businesses and brands.

Gods were used as symbols for different aspects of human emotions and thought, during times when there weren't many alternative frameworks for handling such elevated concepts. In our times the languages we are now using are much more analytical--and over centuries science has given us more accurate concepts. So, we don't need the blurry old gods to be able to handle higher ideas anymore.

The lack of knowledge makes man daunted and fearful. 2000 years ago there were few answers and man did anything he could to try to learn more. Gods were among the first higher concepts that man created for himself to answer his own questions. Gods were like "prototypes" of the more useful and more accurate concepts that were invented later and slowly gained popularity. It is only normal that we were wrong first and found better knowledge only over time.

All the time the old and the new ideas compete over the same minds. When old religions have already saturated the market of men's minds with their so-called answers, it is difficult for new ideas to penetrate the market. Churches used all their available means to try to maintain their monopoly in thinking. Just like monopolies today use dirty tricks to maintain their brand position. Luckily most religions are now lagging so far behind that it is rather easy to see how much better the new products (of science) are. Concepts are like any other products we use in our daily lives. We use tools for building houses, and we use concepts for thinking and making decisions. We also use concepts for creating the tools and planning the houses. It makes a huge difference in one's life, which set of concepts he chooses for his own use.

For example, if you choose the toolbox of Islam, you will spend a big part of your life praying in a certain direction. If you choose some other conceptual product suite, you will be doing something else instead.

Religions are just product suites offering various sets concepts and traditions for everyday life. However, today we have much better tools easily available.