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Sems to me ya shouldn't poke the hornet's nest if ya don't wanna get stung. Yeah, the civilian casualties suck, but that is what happens when cowards hide among the populace instead of engaging in an open battlefield. They COUNT on the world *beep*ing about Israelis  accidentally killing civillians. Seems to me if the Palestinians didn't wanna get killed they'd do something about the Hamas in their midst once and for all.

You know ginger, when anything comes in "anonymously" from the region you have to take it with a grain of salt. This is for both sides. That region has spun so much lies, claiming things that weren't true, saying they received false information anonymously when they make a mistake. It's classic Mid-east.

Just look at the propaganda history from both sides and what they have "claimed" which has later been discovered false. And it's not liek the associated press had any way to tell if this was legit or not. They simly ook there word on it most likely for the attention that company is going to get around it once they publize this and that could never hurt profits.

So, when Israel says they anything "anonymously" you have to take it with a grain of salt because again, the region is know for lies not to mention that Israel is in a war right now and propaganda is one of the main tools used in a war.

Also, yes it is illegal to attack the UN or any UN building.

To Pimp: I never said Israel was an illegal state. However, there current borders arent the borders there supposed to have. There official "legal" borders are there 1967 borders before the invasion. Thats the whole reason there's conflict in the region. The Palestinians want the Israelis to withdraw to within there borders.

To Ginger again, The UN says there sure that any military activity was not taking place in or on UN property. Also, Israel bombed the school not once but twice. Mabe the terrorists were like super fast and were able to out run the first one?

Also Blood, I'll give you one thing. Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth. However, how does that justify Israel using CLUSTER BOMBS in those areas? Im sure you know what cluster bombs are/what there used for and that there never "surgical" or accurate.


P.S: And to Pestard who said that "Arabs are the problem" Other then the fact that your an obvious racist and any credibility you once had on this issue is now gone because you somehow think your race is superior to all other races because your race is "chosen" and god loves your race better then everyone elses.

 It's sad that people like you and the Israeli government have shown us that nothing, absolutely nothing, was learned from the Nazis by who they affected most, other then there barbaric isolation and torture techniques.

Oh in a short time, how the oppressed become have become the oppressors.

ye i admit pestards comment was alittle out of line...but anyways, the thing is the militants in palestine are to blame for the civilian casualties. They fire rockets from places FULL of people, and Israel retaliates by firing back into that area. In doing so, Israel kills tons and the world gets angry at Israel. But although it is Israel who deserves half the blame, its also the Palestinion militants to blame. They provoked Israel, and then had the nerve to actually sacrifice their own civilians by firing out of those areas. And i wouldnt put it past the Palestine goverment to be doing it on purpose as their own form of propaganda out to the rest of the world. But the fact is, the blame is 50/50, and it rly annoys me to see people supporting either side wen theyre both to blame here, and maybe palestine even more than israel, because when israel causes the casualties its not their OWN civilians. Palestine actually puts their own civilians into the line of fire! Wat the hell are the hamas doing in goverment??!?!

Dark Lord Finwe Report 12/31/2008 12:33:45 PM

caradoc i think it might be you who doenst know history. a book is no cause to invade a country. if you looked up the real facts you would know how the current state of isreal was created and whats its borders are supposed to be.

Israel was created for a safe haven for the Jews after WWII. the UN aggred on giving the land to them... sounds like tough sh!!!t to remember isnt it?

what Bible do I read? what do you mean what Bible? there is only one true Bible as far as I am concerned. KJV. Its the direct translation of how the Bible was actully written. this is of course without added words like the NKJV that adds word or improvements lines of the Bible for "easier understanding". im preaty damn sure i know what im talking about. it all seems to me like you are all bias against Israel for attacking the Palestines. oh boo hoo Gaza is getting ass rapped. who started this, this time? hmm. think its ok to fire rockets against the Jews and for them just to say hahahaha what a good joke. no your an *beep* 

Well...if you want to be technical, Israel was not created until 1948 =)

"I thought we are all supposed to live in peace and harmony?"

Oh the ironies as we play a war game... xD

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/israel_hist_1973.jpg

Look at the bottom left and bottom center, that is what it should look like, vs what Isreal conquered. But don't foget Israel's war with egpyt(ended circa 1967), and all the other arab nations, which was started by those Arab nations, who from a certain perspective had a right to do so with Israel's initial agression against the people they were supposed to share thier nation with. Maybe there is a third party to blame as well, possibly the United States government needs to stop funding Israel's wars; Israel is one of the top recepients of Foreign Aid from teh United states.(http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-foreign-aid.htm). If it wasn't for that foreign AID, Israel wouldn't have the rockets to fire...

lol dude they dnt purposely attack these places, but basically wen a rocket is fired into israel, israel traces it back to where it was fired from and shoots back in the same direction. Obviously it doesnt mean israels in the right, because they really should check where theyre counter-attacking lol.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/09/africa/09mideast.php?page=1

you stick me with a needle, i'll stab you with a sword ...

Just look at the statistics.

in the last 7 years 14 Israelis have died as a result of hamas rockets being fired into Israel territory

In the last 14 days, over 900 Palestinians have been killed with over 3000 wounded. Not to mention there basically starving of all essentials and living under constant bombardment.

I think the statistics speak for itself.

You don't squish someones baby because they cut in front of you inline.

And, contrary to popular belief here (in this thread, atleast thats how it  appears), it was Israel who broke the ceasefire that was agreed to with hams and left a relative 1 month(??) of peace. They began conducting air strikes on where they believed top hamas officals and hamas tunnles were. They ended up being wrong and angering hamas along with killing a bunch of civilians. No *beep* they would fire rockets back.

Then they siged gaza of everything for 18 months and conduct constent air strikes

Obviusoly hamas would fire rockets back...any self respecting government or group would fight back

Then they complained about the rockets and began creating a concentartion camp in gaza